[FremontSax]

Hi! I must be a little goofy in my old age. I keep waiting for my horn to show up on this register, I swear I left information on a page in this Leblanc/Beaugnier area, but apparently here is where I should have described it! I've owned this Vito-branded baritone saxophone for about a year and a half now: Serial number 20803, honey-gold (or aged to this cool shade) lacquer body and keys, double low C tone holes, model 38 (No "Duke", but I have learned here I get to call it by that name regardless), white oversized ovalish LH thumbrest, Low Bb with bell keys, and C# on right side, separate guards, big downward curved B to B brace, ribbed construction, made in France, appears very, very, close to new.

Thinking I had a great sleeper horn (Grassi) and one of their stencils (Martin Busine) as a backup, I stumbled upon what I really had wanted all along when I came back to sax playing after 45 years off, very close to the same Vito I must have had as a brand new school horn in 1963 (that probably didn't have the double C holes). Vitos were big in our area then as we lived maybe 20 minutes from the Kenosha facility (and maybe 30 from Holton). When I first started looking in 2016, I found to my horror that I missed by a week the bari that had hung in the "museum room" at the factory, as new. The one I got came pretty close. Yes, I am an admitted "cosmetic condition" junkie!!! Hopefully my photo will cooperate, the M/B on the left has since moved on to a student in Iowa. View attachment 225008

At first I thought this had to be an early seventies horn, but a few tidbits I found, particularly when researching SML horns where it seems they had Beaugnier/Leblanc (? by then) make baris for them, seemed to suggest 68-69. Any ideas there??

Nice looking Bari collection.
It certainly could be a Duke or Model 38 it is about 200 counts higher then the previous one. Age wise I would guess early 1970's.
It has now been added to the spreadsheet.
Thanks...

 

[FremontSax]

hey Pete, For the Leblanc Alto, Serial Number below 419 don't seem to have high F# tone holes.

you can see a spreadsheet at
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...m/spreadsheets/d/1W9XkDcn0DuriM13agEpfUxlMdcjW9ULnbxiSRsTQF_w/edit#gid=26251117

 

[FremontSax]

interesting I never saw that before....

I have seen a Leblanc Tenor that I had assumed was a Model 120 but it had a chrome finish on the bell. Perhaps it was a Model 125.

 

[FremontSax]

Re: Leblanc Sax Serial Number Regestry

Just arrived: Leblanc 100 serial no. 1345. saxontheweb/ebay. Thanks again, Roger D. Horn must have been a 'closet queen', it is immaculate! Going to my Tech tomorrow AM for a little tweaking and then I'm in business.

G

and thanks for the full serial number

 

[FremontSax]

AMASAX,

Thank you, all help on this project is always appreciated. To me this is a community project. Everyone should be free to use the information in however they wish.

 

[FremontSax]

What's the highest serial number you have for a Leblanc 100 Alto? Unclear from comments section. I know the serials go up into the 15xx range, at least, from what I've encountered.

Model 100

62 Saxophones
Lowest SN 122
Highest SN 1404

 

[FremontSax]

Hi, and thanks for developing the inventory list!
Here are two more for the list.

1) Beaugnier Special Perfect in silver plate. Tenor. Serial 6074. RH bell keys. Pearl buttons for left hand thumb rest and octave key.
2) Revere. Tenor. Brass with/nickel keywork. Suspect 1957 manufacture. Serial 6414. RH bell keys. Almost an exact match with Beaugnier 6074. Two differences: one, no microtuner neck, and two, the octave key is not a pearl button, but metal shaped around the button (like an old Martin "the Martin".

Thanks added to spreadsheet

 

[FremontSax]

Question for all of you more knowledgeable than myself.
I have what looks like a Vito Model 9139 with No serial number. Does anyone know of any 9139's made without serial numbers?

a few photos might help

 

[FremontSax]

Vito Model 35 SN 271A. Picked up partly because my step-grandmother was a polisher at the Vito Kenosha factory. Keeping it because it kicks butt.

Hey cool.... any idea of when your Grandmother worked there? in Kenosha WI? feel free to interject any stories.

Alto Sax: Vito 35 - SN 2655A. Since 2 Years
Tenor Sax: Leblanc 120 - SN 467. Since 2 Month

Does the Model 120 have a high f# key?

The model 120 might go back to about 1954 or 5 as a guess.

The Vito late 1950's to mid 1960's as a reference 2086A also a model 35 was purchased 9/15/1966 (receipt) but how long did it sit on the shelf?

 

[FremontSax]

My list seems to have made 1000 serial numbers plus or minus a couple.....

a reminder it can be found at

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W9XkDcn0DuriM13agEpfUxlMdcjW9ULnbxiSRsTQF_w/edit#gid=26251117

 

[FremontSax]

thanks 13269, 653A and 11997A have been added.

 

[FremontSax]

this is a pretty Noblet up on ebay right now with a rather interesting serial number of 6804B

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saxophone-a...axophone-alto-noblet-paris-/282067491421?hash=item41ac885a5d:g:y3IAAOSwr0ZXN29D

 

[FremontSax]

AMASAX: You are correct. My bad. For some reason I was thinking that the serial numbers where shared between models, probably because the spreadsheet interlaces them and the range of serial numbers is similar.

Your observation about fewer tenors being produced got me to thinking. If the spreadsheet truly represents a random sample of the LeBlanc model 100/120 horns that are out there, then 62 altos and 25 tenors are accounted for (~71% altos and ~29% tenors). So for every 100 of these models, you might infer that 71 are altos and 29 are tenors. Perhaps it reflects demand for LeBlanc altos over LeBlanc tenors.

if you use the whole spreadsheet and ignore the make and model you get 642 altos to 219 tenors roughly a 3 to 1 ratio

 

[FremontSax]

Nice work. Might wanna split it up to have separate sections for Vito vs. French/Leblanc horns.

What's the latest/largest serial you've encountered for the model 100 altos ?

Thanks. The nice thing about spreadsheets is you can sort on any column or even use multiple columns.

The highest Model 100 that I have found is 1404.

 

[FremontSax]

Well that is the question. Where Serial Numbers shared between makes and models? I believe they were. My argument is look at the S/N range for Noblets they start at 3893... If there were more Noblet with significantly smaller S/N then they have been very good at hiding themselves. However there are a few S/N clashes not many but a few. Were these accidents by the shop techs or are they sufficient proof that the makes and models did not share the same S/N sequence? A third possibility is that I miss read or miss typed the serial number.

if the S/N sequence was shared then the total production of Model 100 and 120 could be about 600.

If the S/N sequence wasn't shared then the total production of Model 100 and 120 could be about 1500

 

[FremontSax]

I have been keeping the spreadsheet up on google docs.

Approximately 950 saxophones in the list

Try

Beaugnier Registry Spread Sheet

 

[FremontSax]

Hello. My first post on sotw. I have just purchase a mint, and I think original alto, just like the above (SN225). My SN is 209. I was told 1960 purchase but this is probably not accurate.

For 209 I have a note which states "was purchased new in 1954 by his father"

 

[FremontSax]

A very nice catalog:
http://jeanluc.matte.free.fr/cat/catleblanc.htm

Thanks.... 1959 price list info too ... oh these are in old francs... in 1960 the Franc was revalued so that 100 old francs = 1 new Franc

so

old francs new francs 1959 Dollars 2014 Dollars
model 100 silver plate 87.000 870 207 1634
model 100 lacquer 84.000 840 200 1602

Model 120 silver plate 102.000 1020 243 1947
model 120 lacquer 98.000 980 233 1867

 

[FremontSax]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vito-LeBlan...one-Kenosha-WI-Early-1970s-/121844516629?hash=item1c5e7fc715:g:goMAAOSw3KFWdeO-

nice and pretty lacquer job new pads.... seller claims the lacquer is original my notes indicate I have seen it before and it was un-lacquered then.

 

[FremontSax]

Another nice lady
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Vintage-Vito...o-LeBlanc-Model-35S-Semi-Rationale-SUPER-RARE-/131620722166?hash=item1ea534d5f6

serial number 3167A

wow asking $5650

If you would like to see a really pretty one of these look at Saints Day's post #10 of this thread. So first page.