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Yamaha Saxophone SERIAL Number Database

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Hi SOTW members,

Some of you will have seen my Yamaha MODEL Number List. As part of this collection of data, I have created an online database for collecting the SERIAL numbers of Yamaha Saxophones.

Yamaha USA will provide a manufacture date for recent model saxophones if you contact them via:

bandandorchestra@yamaha.com

They have very little information regarding older instruments as they state themselves on their Yamaha "Bell and Barrel" website.

"...Players have been known to say that under no circumstances would they EVER part with their 62 soprano. (That is, until we can come up with something that's as good, if not better than their YSS-62)

As close as we can guess there were around 3,000 of these sold in the United States (our records were a bit sketchy in the very early 80?s) both in the lacquer and silver finishes. Unfortunately, there are NO serial number records available that can help clarify individual production dates beyond some rough guesses.

We do know that there was a change in tonehole placement at some point in the production..."
I'm hoping to collect a large enough sample of instruments to provide a reasonable estimation of the date of manufacture of most of the Yamaha Saxophones. I also hope that this collected data will reveal some inconsistencies in the way Yamaha mark and identify particular models.

The Yamaha SAXOPHONE Serial Number Database can be found here:

Saxophone
Yamaha SAXOPHONE Serial Number Database
Yamaha SAXOPHONE Serial Number Database - Submission Form


Cheers
YamahaCollector
 
#4 ·
I submitted info on my YSS-62 for your database. In case anyone here is interested: Purchased new in 1982 from (I believe.....hey, it's been a LONG time!) Wichita Band. It's the earliest serial # YSS-62 that I've ever seen (2905). Was a purple logo horn with engraving, but I've had the lacquer stripped, so the logo is no longer. It's a great playing soprano and I should play it more, but I think we all know how that goes!

John
 
#7 ·
Bob, I had inquired about my YTS-61 a while back and was given the reply that they don't have a serial #/date list from that far back and that production on the YTS-61 ended in 1979.
 
#9 ·
I asked about my tenor, and they said that it was originally sold to somone outside the US, so they did not have information on it. They only seem to have info going back ten years too.
 
#10 ·
After seeing this thread and another dealing with the previously unknown to me plant in Grand Rapids, MI, I was astonished to think my daughter's YAS 52 "purple logo" (on semi-permanent loan until I die) was "made" in the US. An "A" suffix a bit to the right of the serial number seemed to denote "America". A call to the number I saw on SOTW, for the American Yamaha guys in Anneheim, 714-522-9011, works if you select a non-listed option of "0" as the long menu curiously doesn't have a Band and Orchestra prompt.

Getting to a nice, helpful Linda, I gave her the serial number, but turning the horn in poor light I stopped short of the A. She worked on it for a bit, then put me on hold for a long bit, then came back and very unconvincingly told me our horn was made in Japan. When I pressed a little she said I should talk to Jonathan, (ext 9445 btw) where I had to leave a message. Later I left another than I had found the A. No call back for a week.

Tried again yesterday, and got "Jon" as he answers. Very nice, enthusiastic, and free with his time. He says that the "A" is simply part of the serial number, and DOES NOT denote made in American or anything!! Any letters as a prefix might denote country of origin, especially on modern horns, but not so on the A suffix. There can be, however, an A suffix to the model number (i.e. YTS 23A) but this would only appear on the box, for warehouse purposes, not on the horn. Thus older horns could go out before those made in a now new location.

He said our horn would be marked "made in Japan" on the body tube below the serial number, as surely any 52 with this low of a number (004902A) would have been made in Japan, and, at the very least the body tube would have been. Of course, ours has no such designation. He told me again where to look, I told him directly below the serial number is the bow seam!!

Between these two calls I was referred, on a parts matter, to Mark, a higher up in their service organization. When I asked as an aside, about the darned silly "A", he quickly replied that designated assembled in the American plant. When I told Jon that he stated that he would straighten Mark out on that matter! We have seen on this forum that information, true or not, gets woven into our internet fabric of knowledge. I think some (especially younger) employees of these instrument companies may possibly be influenced by this "knowledge"!

Anyhoooo.... Jon was sure by the serial number that our horn was made before 1989-1990 where, as we have heard before, Yamaha's records devolve into shadows and speculation. His guess was early 80s, my daughter and I deduced that we bought it in about 1988. And, "made in Japan, assembled in Japan, as only student and intermediate models were assembled in Michigan!" " Well, isn't the 52 an intermediate??!!" "Well, way back then the 52 was equivalent to almost all other maker's pro horn at the time, and, we don't field very many questions about the 52". OK---I'm retired and have endless time to spend on geeky details (inquiring minds want to know) but am becoming convinced that NO ONE.......Really......Knows. To invoke my favorite saying developed during thirty year of used car selling--"It is what it is!" You want head spinning, go research sixties Gibson guitars!! Jay
 
#11 ·
My YTS 61 which I bought new in 1978 in Arizona has an A after the serial # (the number is on the lower part of the back of the body) . It has a purple logo stamp with Yamaha and Japan under it, surrounded by engraving on the right side of the bell and full engraving on the front and both sides of the bell down to where the bell is connected to the crook of the body.The number is 0121xxA. Japan is not engraved on the horn at all, just indicated by the printed on Purple Logo. I don't recall the salesman ever saying anything about being assembled in America.
 
#12 ·
Yes, Now that I look at my purplish-magenta logo on the horn (post ten above) it has the Yami logo (the three tuning forks), in large print "Yamaha" and underneath, in smaller letters, "Japan", with absolutely no engraving, anywhere. We probably have all seen bell information with the country the home offices of the manufacturer, with a different "made in " country elsewhere, such as the Ida Maria Grassi logo looking identical to that of the original owning company, save for the words "made in", just saying "Italy". The new owners, Proel, will give you the information about its Asian origins stamped on the back! On mine I'm going with Japan and I'm sticking to it. It really only matters if you're selling it, it won't change how it plays or sounds. The "shed"' however, will. I'm going there now.......
 
#15 ·
There's no option for YTS-62iii.
 
#16 ·
Hi YamahaCollector, I've just submitted my YAS-23 details to your list. Just for others, it is serial number 050 419, which seems early-ish. It has the Tuning fork symbol on the bell, followed by the word YAMAHA in capitals, with JAPAN on the 'next line'. The body has the word YAMAHA in capitals, with the model (YAS-23) underneath that, and the serial number (050 419) beneath that.
I've yet to contact Yamaha themselves to try to find the build date, I've only had this beasty since 12th March 2018, so early days for me.
Cheers,
Syd
 
#18 ·
I realize this thread's a year old, but the database links are no longer good. Anyone know where to go now? I'd like to ID the year of the YSS-475 I just picked up.
Cheers
 
#22 ·
I took the advice from the first post, and got a response within a few days.

Yamaha USA will provide a manufacture date for recent model saxophones if you contact them via

bandandorchestra@yamaha.com
 
#23 ·
Hi SOTW members,

Some of you will have seen my Yamaha MODEL Number List. As part of this collection of data, I have created an online database for collecting the SERIAL numbers of Yamaha Saxophones.

Yamaha USA will provide a manufacture date for recent model saxophones if you contact them via

bandandorchestra@yamaha.com

but they have very little information regarding older instruments as they state themselves on their Yamaha "Bell and Barrel" website.

Espero recopilar una muestra lo suficientemente grande de instrumentos para proporcionar una estimación razonable de la fecha de fabricación de la mayoría de los saxofones Yamaha. También espero que estos datos recopilados revelen algunas inconsistencias en la forma en que Yamaha marca e identifica modelos particulares.

La base de datos de números de serie de Yamaha SAXOPHONE se puede encontrar aquí:

Saxofón
Base de datos de números de serie de Yamaha SAXOPHONE
Base de datos de números de serie de Yamaha SAXOPHONE - Formulario de envío

Salud
Yamaha Coleccionist

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#25 ·
Hi SOTW members,

Some of you will have seen my Yamaha MODEL Number List. As part of this collection of data, I have created an online database for collecting the SERIAL numbers of Yamaha Saxophones.

Yamaha USA will provide a manufacture date for recent model saxophones if you contact them via:

bandandorchestra@yamaha.com

They have very little information regarding older instruments as they state themselves on their Yamaha "Bell and Barrel" website.



I'm hoping to collect a large enough sample of instruments to provide a reasonable estimation of the date of manufacture of most of the Yamaha Saxophones. I also hope that this collected data will reveal some inconsistencies in the way Yamaha mark and identify particular models.

The Yamaha SAXOPHONE Serial Number Database can be found here:

Saxophone
Yamaha SAXOPHONE Serial Number Database
Yamaha SAXOPHONE Serial Number Database - Submission Form


Cheers
YamahaCollector
The document links are broken. Has the Yamaha list been posted anywhere else?
 
#27 ·
Hey. I have a horn from ‘VITO’ that my aunt had during her high school years. I have pictures, and I want to find the model name of my horn. The serial number is 070024 and it has ‘JAPAN’ underneath. I’ve search everywhere and can’t find it. Pictures will be below.
This might not be the best thread for this, but that is a Leblanc Vito, model 7131 assuming it's an alto. It's generally the same as a Yamaha YAS-21.
 
#29 ·
I have a horn kind of like that one. It's serial number is 021621, and it does not have "Made in Japan" stenciled on it. I was told initially it was Yamaha, not made in Japan, but made in Nogales, AZ. I can't find any information on Yamahas made in AZ or Mexico, though I am told Conn made horns in the southwest, maybe AZ.

I really like it. It's mechanically solid, plays in tune as well as I can play it and is really easy to play.

I have a message in to Yamaha to find out more.
 
#36 ·
I agree, that finish is not one I'm familiar with on a YAS-23. Is it an epoxy coat?