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What does "set-up" mean?

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#1 ·
Hey guys and girls, I've been wondering about something for a while. I've been playing alto for about 6 years now and I've never had any real problems with my horn (jupiter 767gl, student sax.) I'll be getting a new horn in the next few weeks, I played about a dozen Reference 54's and dozens of other kinds and I found a 54 that just blew me away, so I'll be picking it up in the next couple of weeks. This is slightly embarassing, but I've never brought my old horn in to be set up. I want to get my new one (as I've heard Selmer isn't doing a very good job at shipping them well set-up.) Truthfully, I don't know what that means. This is the crux of the matter: What does getting your horn "set-up" mean? If I take it to my local tech (Twigg Musique in Montreal if it matters...) and say I'd like to have it set up, I assume I'll have to answer some questions and provide specifications, but I have no clue.

Please, please fill me in on this. It's pretty embarrassing that I have no idea what it means yet I've played tons of gigs, festivals, and shows...
 
#2 ·
In a nutshell, it means making adjustments to the instrument to make it play as well as possible.

This could include but is not limited to: eliminating leaks, adjusting the heights of keys to improve action and intonation, lubricating keywork, adjusting freeplay in double acting mechanism, lapping in the neck tenon etc...

The main things you would need to communicate to your tech are any playing or intonation issues that you have noticed. These could be described in laymens terms. "The G is stuffy", "It's hard to get the low notes to come out", "the side C key makes noise", stuff like that. Write it down all the things you need resolved before you go in so you don't forget some important piece.

If your new horn is purchased from a music shop it should have a basic set up before you get it and some sort of "honeymoon" period for you to bring it back for minor tweaking if there are any glaring issues.
 
#3 ·
"Set-up" seems to mean different things to different people in this forum. I'll give you my use of the term and then others can chime in. To me set-up refers to when the instrument is leak free and in good adjustment and the tech makes adjustments to improve upon the condition of the sax as it came out of the factory.

A set-up could include:
-adjusting to key heights to voice the notes better or speed up the action,
-adjusting the springs to the player's liking,
-adding key risers or bending keys to better fit the players hands
-adding teflon or other friction reducing materials
-putting crescents in toneholes to adjust intonation
-changing to different pads or resonators for a different "feel" or color of sound

Some people use the term "set-up" to describe what I call a "play condition" which means to fix any leaks and to adjust and regulate the keys. Of course some brands of saxes often need a "play condition" right out of the factory due to poor adjustment at the point of assembly, materials settling in, or bent keys during rough transit.

John
 
#4 ·
when I got my 54 alto it played great but the springs were a bit too tense. It made the action to slow. I had my repair guy lighten the springs so that the action was faster and I didn't have to work so hard. My sax also has a low C gurgle with certain mouthpieces although with the mouthpiece I have now it doesn't happen. you might want to make sure your's doesn't have this problem. Also the neck was too l loose in the socket so I had to have that fixed. Cograts. these are great horns. steve
 
#9 ·
So in short, if nothing feels wrong with the horn then it is not in need of any adjustments? Or is it even possible to know if your horn is at it's best (for you)?

Thanks for all the replies.