how long do you leave the ligature on the piece? This “ bond” is formed every time you play or are you talking leaving ligature and reed for extended perios of time AFTER you have played a while on the mouthpiece?

I have had anything like you are describing!

Play, remove both, dry, place again, repeat

 

Is that ligature TOO SMALL???

 

No, according to the manufacturer, it's for for a tenor sax. Thanks

 

Thanks Milandro

I've had the ligature approximately 4 months

I clean and dry my sax equipment after each daily practice.

I change reeds two or three times during a three hour rehearsal period, but it can often be a challenge

I would like a quick change option during a performance

 

I've really never ever experience problems such as the ones that you describe with any rovner ligature.

Why would the ligature adhere to the mouthpiece as if it was glued if there is no glue? Even “ spit” won’t be able to act as a solvent of glue that may be left on the ligature by some process.

I really cannot understand why that would happen.

Anyway, why do you change reed two three time within the same session? I have never seen anyone ( nor done this myself) change a reed during any length of performance.

Anyway, the obvious answer is get yourself a metal ligature.

 

Why would the ligature adhere to the mouthpiece as if it was glued if there is no glue? Even " spit" won't be able to act as a solvent of glue that may be left on the ligature by some process.

I really cannot understand why that would happen.

Yes, true. My thought too. I must have very special spit

However, I was hoping it was something someone might help me to overcome

Thanks again for your comment

 

well, tenor sax is the horn but there are MANY sizes of mouthpieces and if you got a tenorsax ligature meant for metal mouthpices it may be very tight on hard rubber mouthpiece , this is probably , what @bandmommy wrote , the only explanation that may come close to explain this,

take pictures or even better a video of you trying to take the ligature out

 

please send pictures

 

Ligature and Mouthpiece

 

 

and this should show the fitting? try a picture, with reed on the mouthpiece with the ligature mounted seen from the top, don’t publish a thumbnail size

 

and this should show the fitting? try a picture, with reed on the mouthpiece with the ligature mounted seen from the top, don't publish a thumbnail size

i tried to send a video of me easily placing the dry ligature on the mouthpiece with one hand but that wasn't allowed.

 

Forgive me but what is it you're trying to see? The ligature slips ON ONE END of the mouthpiece easily and OFF THE OTHER easily too, if that helps?

 

what I can see is that the ligature is stretched to the outmost and the screw appears even bent , this shows that this ligature is too small for this mouthpiece and and now even probably damaged

 

OK Thanks for that.

 

I thought the screw was meant to be slightly curved. It works fine and actually came like that. Ill see if I can return it

 

none of the screws in my rovner and rovner like ligatures are curved, Id be surprised that you can return it but try

Ideally a well fitting ligature is not so much more " open" than this.

Your statement " works fine" contradicts the entire thread, it doesn't!

In my opinion you got a small ligature and overstretched it already

 

indeed that is the way that it is supposed to work although it isn’t unknown ( as any other ligature) to be used in a reversed position.
I think OP has still a few things to work out about several things

 

Just as I suspected.
THE LIGATURE IS TOO SMALL.
It looks like it would fit a clarinet mouthpiece.
Good luck trying to return it after 4 MONTHS and damaged.

 

Just as I suspected.
THE LIGATURE IS TOO SMALL.
It looks like it would fit a clarinet mouthpiece.
Good luck trying to return it after 4 MONTHS and damaged.

Rovner make an 2R for clarinets too, because i cant find one?

 

Too small for sure - and Milandro is correct - The screw should not be bent.

It's just a guess, but If it came that way perhaps it was labeled incorrectly and someone else tried to force it to work on a Tenor MPC before it was then re-boxed and sent to you.

 

doesn’t look like it did AND it got bent...

 

You're continuing effort to avoid suicide from a sticking ligature is remarkable....LOL

 

That photo with the bent screw shows that the ligature is WAY too small for the mpc. My guess is you ordered a lig for an Otto Link without specifying that it's a Hard Rubber Link, and they sent you one to fit a metal Link. The metal Links are considerably smaller than the HR version. In any case, the lig doesn't fit that mpc!

 

While we can all agree that the ligature is too small, that doesn't address his initial problem, which I'm surprised nobody else has experienced. I certainly have. I'm thinking it might be a combination of materials and the environment. I live in a hot, desert climate, so the ligs and mpc may get hotter and drier here than in most places. Whatever the cause, the Rovners can get pretty stuck to the mpc. I've discovered that applying a bit of cork grease to the inside of the lig (or to the outside of the mpc) helps.

 

While we can all agree that the ligature is too small, that doesn't address his initial problem, which I'm surprised nobody else has experienced.

Whatever the cause, the Rovners can get pretty stuck to the mpc. I've discovered that applying a bit of cork grease to the inside of the lig (or to the outside of the mpc) helps.

I've used Rovners in the past. I still like and occasionally use the Eddie Daniels version (now called the "Versa") which fits my slim ebonite PPT mpc, although I generally use the metal 2-screw Rico H lig.

In any case, I've never experienced the lig getting stuck to the mpc in any way. Simply turn the screw and the lig opens right up, making it easy to slip off. I can't see how it could end up sticking to the mpc as long as it can be released with the single screw. Seems very strange, but it must be possible if you and others have had the problem.

 

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I think I've had brand new Rovners be a bit sticky to the MP - maybe hard to adjust. I'd probably just run my finger along the side of my nose and use the resulting lubricant to slick it up a wee bit. I don't remember what I've actually done.

 

Here Rovner's fit guidelines, including its orientation. 2R is supposed to be the right size for Link HR.

https://www.rovnerproducts.com/assets/templates/bella-html5/images/AllOneLigatureInsert.pdf

 

Apologies for the delay

Firstly, thank you for the helpful comments. I now know that the screw was meant to be straight. The problem was solved by tighten the nut onto the thread without the mouthpiece I was pretty much able to straighten the screw.

As stated, when dry, the ligature did and still does slip on and off the mouthpiece easily, with plenty of room and thread to accommodate the nut. (Twelve full turns just pinches the reed without stretching the rubber and the reverse releases the ligature enough to remove the reed quite easily, when first fitted).

I did contact Rovner, you can see from their reply, that the 2R is recommended by them…

……As I said it works fine, meaning it does the job I bought it to do, despite it being hard to unstick in a hurry at times.

 

Thanks for the replies, particularly those that asked questions without making assumptions or sounding superior.

I appreciate to some this may be a trivial problem, but I have had reeds split during a solo performance in the past and I was able to release the reed instantly with a metal ligature. Ill try Al's idea or if that fails i can always revert to metal.