[NeedsWork]

Hi all! I just received a couple of the v2 NY Bros pieces from Theo Wanne. They are absolutely incredible. More punch and percussiveness throughout the range than the original, while also improving that great core and body. Highs sing a bit more without being brighter.

I have quite a few NY-style pieces to which I can compare (Drake, Aizen, Vandoren V16 M, S, S+, Gaia 2), so if you have any questions, ask away! My preferred tip in these is usually a 7 (6 in the Drake, as it's an .080), but have played a variety of sizes.

Thanks!

 

[bakkiemetkoekie]

I always feel sorry for the ones who bought the first version.

 

[NeedsWork]

I always feel sorry for the ones who bought the first version.

Those looking for a more polite delivery (not as punchy, percussive) might actually prefer the first version. I happen to like the 2nd version a bit better, but that is just a preference. Both versions have something to offer.

 

[BillyC]

I will be trying the 7 and 8 out very soon. Interested to see how they compare with my current Meyer mpc. Are the version 2 Wanne pieces made of hard rubber? I remember Theo mentioning that to me a while back, but the web site still lists the material as Fiberrod.

Hi all! I just received a couple of the v2 NY Bros pieces from Theo Wanne. They are absolutely incredible. More punch and percussiveness throughout the range than the original, while also improving that great core and body. Highs sing a bit more without being brighter.

I have quite a few NY-style pieces to which I can compare (Drake, Aizen, Vandoren V16 M, S, S+, Gaia 2), so if you have any questions, ask away! My preferred tip in these is usually a 7 (6 in the Drake, as it's an .080), but have played a variety of sizes.

Thanks!

 

[BillyC]

Hi all! I just received a couple of the v2 NY Bros pieces from Theo Wanne. They are absolutely incredible. More punch and percussiveness throughout the range than the original, while also improving that great core and body. Highs sing a bit more without being brighter.

I have quite a few NY-style pieces to which I can compare (Drake, Aizen, Vandoren V16 M, S, S+, Gaia 2), so if you have any questions, ask away! My preferred tip in these is usually a 7 (6 in the Drake, as it's an .080), but have played a variety of sizes.

Thanks!

Are they made of hard rubber, or Fiberrod like their previous model?

 

[Dr G]

my friend has one, it sound realy well

Are you just pasting this response in every mouthpiece thread?

 

[Pete Thomas]

Are you just pasting this response in every mouthpiece thread?

Appears to be spam, I'm attempting to deal with it.

 

[NeedsWork]

Are they made of hard rubber, or Fiberrod like their previous model?

It looks and feels a little different than the original. I thought it was hard rubber when I got it, but the web site had noted it was Fiberrod. Since then, the website has been updated and says its hard rubber. It does look a little different than the Gaia I have, but that may be due to age? Honestly, I'm a little unsure but leaning towards it being a true hard rubber. Whatever it is, it looks, feels, and blows fantastic. The #7 has become my primary piece.

 

[Lonewolf]

How does it compare to the S+?

 

[jman1977]

How does it compare to the S+?

I'm interested in the answer to this as well.

 

[NeedsWork]

I'm interested in the answer to this as well.

Compared to the S+, the NY Bros 2 has more core and body. The S+ is brighter, but both have similar power. The S+ is less bright than the original S, but still a little thin when compared to the NY Bros 2.
NY Bros 2 has the body of the M but with power like the S+. I do prefer it greatly to the S+, as it has a rounder sound but still very percussive and powerful. The comparison's I've made have all been tip opening 7.

 

[jman1977]

I'm interested in the answer to this as well.

Compared to the S+, the NY Bros 2 has more core and body. The S+ is brighter, but both have similar power. The S+ is less bright than the original S, but still a little thin when compared to the NY Bros 2.
NY Bros 2 has the body of the M but with power like the S+. I do prefer it greatly to the S+, as it has a rounder sound but still very percussive and powerful. The comparison's I've made have all been tip opening 7.

How about in terms of responsiveness? One of the things I really like about the S+ is its almost instant responsiveness up and down the registers.

 

[Lonewolf]

Thank you for your response.

 

[Vandlay]

Would like to hear some audio clips...anybody? Thanks

 

[NeedsWork]

How about in terms of responsiveness? One of the things I really like about the S+ is its almost instant responsiveness up and down the registers.

Hi Jman, I know what you mean and I think the S+ may take less effort to respond, though it's subtle and reed types can help make the most of each. Another very responsive mouthpiece is the Aizen NY. The Aizen reminds me of the S+ in response but offers up a subtly different balance with more powerful upper mids. All of these are fantastic pieces. I find the NY Bros the best balance for my concept.

 

[jman1977]

Hi Jman, I know what you mean and I think the S+ may take less effort to respond, though it's subtle and reed types can help make the most of each. Another very responsive mouthpiece is the Aizen NY. The Aizen reminds me of the S+ in response but offers up a subtly different balance with more powerful upper mids. All of these are fantastic pieces. I find the NY Bros the best balance for my concept.

Speaking of responses, thank you very much for yours. I may just try out the NY Bros. I do have a permanent mouthpiece, but I find it fun to collect various pieces and compare their different attributes.

 

[Sonorous1]

I know this thread is a little stale, but I wanted to chime in anyway, in case people (like me) are still searching for information on these excellent mouthpieces. I am a self-professed gear guy and I have indeed tried virtually everything under the sun for alto mouthpieces over more almost thirty years of playing. I was into metal mouthpieces for almost a decade, but recently was drawn back into that 50s and 60s sound of so many different alto players who played hard rubber - so I switched back. I've owned and played a D'Addario Select Jazz Limited marble edition in a 6M, A New York Meyer 100th Anniversary edition in 6M, A Selmer Soloist D, a Selmer Super Session E (which is basically "vintage" now because it was like 15 year old stock) and also - a Theo Wanne NY Bros 1 and most recently the Theo Wanne NY Bros 2 - in a 7.
The first edition NY Bros was an incredible mouthpiece, but to my ear it brought out a very contemporary sound. It played very well in tune with instant response all the way up and down the horn, it was a little too full of overtones for me. I've NEVER been good at altissimo (and don't really even prefer such on the alto) but this piece made altissimo much easier for me. An excellent piece, but I was missing that "core" darker bop sound and maybe a little of the low-end and puffy sub tones. I think this is personal preference, but also maybe the fact that it is made out of Harry Hartmann Fiberrod instead of hard rubber.
The NY Bros 2 is my far-and-away favorite over all of the other hard rubber mouthpieces and; the gear hunt is over. (My Wife has witnessed this statement). The tone is sweet, rich and warm, with a very nice center. You can play creamy ballads, bob and hard bob, straight-ahead jazz sound and even mellow Desmond kinds of expressions. However, when you use the right reed and push it with an aggressive attack, you can play the hardest of funk and it delivers what you want to hear. I had my Wife listen from another room in a sort of Pepsi vs Coke challenge between the New York Meyer "reissue" mouthpiece and the NY Bros 2. Multiple tests and every time she chose Theo's mouthpiece. I wouldn't hesitate to pick up a first generation NY Bros if I saw it available in the secondary market for a decent price. AND, if anybody is on the fence about picking up the NY Bros 2, just go for it, you'll love it. As I understand it, Theo Wanne has a trial policy so that you can buy one without the risk of being stuck with something that doesn't meet your needs. Best of luck everybody.

 

[DryMartini]

I noticed on TW's site that it seems to be geared to pop players and not so much towards straight ahead jazz musicians, given the artists and photos.

I'm still looking for a mouthpiece that is round but puts and edge of brilliance and cut in the sound. A sound that makes the hair on your back stand up-- not a dull flat sound. My Meyer Tru-FlexFacing .8 Eric Drake on Tenor has that quality and want to find it on alto. At Eric's shop a Reso Chamber also had it on tenor but was less controllable and out of my budget.

On alto so far I have tried the Rafael Navarro Maestra 5 red marble-

It is super loud and does not get too bright or shrill. It feels harder to play though than I'm used to and it seems to play best on harder reeds, which I am not used to alto.

I also just got the Ted Klum Tonamax 6 black. I don't have a video of it but it plays less loud more open round/fat sound. Maybe better for quieter type gigs. Easy to play. Reed friendly...Generally great mouthpiece, not sure its my sound concept yet.....

I am thinking about trying the NY2 by Theo. If I like it I may be selling my TK. Any comments on how the NY2 compares to the Maestra or Tonamax on alto?

 

[mmichel]

I noticed on TW's site that it seems to be geared to pop players and not so much towards straight ahead jazz musicians, given the artists and photos.

I'm still looking for a mouthpiece that is round but puts and edge of brilliance and cut in the sound. A sound that makes the hair on your back stand up-- not a dull flat sound. My Meyer Tru-FlexFacing .8 Eric Drake on Tenor has that quality and want to find it on alto. At Eric's shop a Reso Chamber also had it on tenor but was less controllable and out of my budget.

On alto so far I have tried the Rafael Navarro Maestra 5 red marble

It is super loud and does not get too bright or shrill. It feels harder to play though than I'm used to and it seems to play best on harder reeds, which I am not used to alto.

I also just got the Ted Klum Tonamax 6 black. I don't have a video of it but it plays less loud more open round/fat sound. Maybe better for quieter type gigs. Easy to play. Reed friendly...Generally great mouthpiece, not sure its my sound concept yet.....

I am thinking about trying the NY2 by Theo. If I like it I may be selling my TK. Any comments on how the NY2 compares to the Maestra or Tonamax on alto?

Have you tried the Klum Acoustimax? I find that it's a bit brighter and much punchier than Meyer-style mouthpieces, but without being thin. I've primarily used Meyer-type pieces on alto in the past, but I find that the Acoustimax is both punchier and easier to play.

 

[skeller047]

I noticed on TW's site that it seems to be geared to pop players and not so much towards straight ahead jazz musicians, given the artists and photos.

I'm still looking for a mouthpiece that is round but puts and edge of brilliance and cut in the sound. A sound that makes the hair on your back stand up-- not a dull flat sound. My Meyer Tru-FlexFacing .8 Eric Drake on Tenor has that quality and want to find it on alto. At Eric's shop a Reso Chamber also had it on tenor but was less controllable and out of my budget.

On alto so far I have tried the Rafael Navarro Maestra 5 red marble-

It is super loud and does not get too bright or shrill. It feels harder to play though than I'm used to and it seems to play best on harder reeds, which I am not used to alto.

I also just got the Ted Klum Tonamax 6 black. I don't have a video of it but it plays less loud more open round/fat sound. Maybe better for quieter type gigs. Easy to play. Reed friendly...Generally great mouthpiece, not sure its my sound concept yet.....

I am thinking about trying the NY2 by Theo. If I like it I may be selling my TK. Any comments on how the NY2 compares to the Maestra or Tonamax on alto?

Try a 10MFan "Alto Madness" piece, it has exactly the characteristics you describe.