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More open tips accentuate leaks.

1.6K views 12 replies 9 participants last post by  saxoclese  
#1 ·
Ok, here’s a thought for you all.
I like to play pretty open tips on both tenor and Baritone.
On Baritone I play a 9 tip low baffle, large chamber piece and on tenor it’s usually a 10 or 10* EB STM.
Recently I sold a baritone saxophone.
It was a decent older horn but it had a few leeks, especially from F1 down.
I could blow through them but it was tough going.
I told the guy who came to look at it about the leaks before he play tested it.
He pulled out a 6 tip RPC and gave it a good blow.
Wow, he said, there’s no leaks that I can notice, it’s sealing better than my Yanagisawa W01.
I found it hard to believe that he didn’t notice these leaks, so asked if I could try it with his piece.
It was like a different horn.
Blew easily in the bottom end and without any sign of leaks.
This guy plays a 6-7 tip mostly but is not unaccustomed to big open tips either.
He played it with a few of my 8-9 tip pieces and instantly said what I thought, that it felt like it was leaking below F.
Long story short, he bought the horn without hesitation and didn’t even try to negotiate price.
I’ve been playing quite open tips for a long time now and didn’t even consider that they may have a tendency to make slight leaks more obvious.
 
#5 ·
It may be true that a leaky horn plays a bit easier on a smaller tip mpc. I haven't ever tested that, so based on the OP's experience, I'll assume it could be true, at least in some cases. But the horn either is either leak-free or it's not. I know I've played through leaks on my tenor in the past on an open tip mpc (.120) without realizing how bad the leaks were until after my tech fixed them. The difference was very noticeable. Bottom line, it's much, much better to play a horn without leaks, regardless of what mpc you are using!
 
#6 ·
This is most definitely true.
One man’s “leak free horn” is another man’s sieve.
The difference between A horn with minor leaks and one that is completely leaks free is immediately noticeable.
Probably more so with a more open piece though.
At least for me the leaks were far more apparent when on an open piece.
 
#13 ·
This is an interesting topic. Having played and repaired saxes for quite a few years, I have found that leaks in the instrument cause a "resistance" when I play and also make notes less responsive---especially in the low register. Playing on a stiffer reed also feels more resistant and makes the low register less responsive. The same strength reed will feel stiffer on a mouthpiece on a wider tip than one with a smaller tip opening. I play test instruments I have worked on using mouthpieces I have used for years and am comfortable with. I feel a "familiar" set-up" gives me the most accurate feedback to evaluate how well all of the pads are sealing.