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That goes between your teeth and lip. From your description in the other thread regarding scar tissue from a vehicle wreck, I thought your bleeding issue was on the surface of your lip where it touches the reed. Which is it?
 
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Ok maybe i was not clear with were i am bleeding from! Its not the top of the lower lip! The bleeding is on the inner lip. My reed touches my inner lip more then the top of my lip as i have quite a bit of the MP in my mouth
 
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$35-70 for a little piece of moldable silicone seems a bit steep but if it stops the lip from getting raw I guess it's worth it.

I have some scar tissue in both lips from a fall I took 4 years ago. Yep, the old faceplant. Face, meet sidewalk - abruptly. I can't whistle anymore and it's hard ( well, nearly impossible ) to form a flute embouchure. Does anyone have any idea whether there's medical fix; maybe dissolve the scar tissue or surgically remove it?
 
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$35-70 for a little piece of moldable silicone seems a bit steep but if it stops the lip from getting raw I guess it's worth it.

I have some scar tissue in both lips from a fall I took 4 years ago. Yep, the old faceplant. Face, meet sidewalk - abruptly. I can't whistle anymore and it's hard ( well, nearly impossible ) to form a flute embouchure. Does anyone have any idea whether there's medical fix; maybe dissolve the scar tissue or surgically remove it?
Do you want DIY instructions for this? I suggest you get an evaluation by a doctor that can actually see your condition. Some scar tissue can be restored without surgery - it is a medication that can be prescribed by a dermatologist.
 
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Are you the guy with the damaged lower lip?

It is not uncommon for people with uneven sharp lower teeth to use a "tooth guard" to protect the lip, even when their embouchure technique is correct. It's a version of why I use patches on the upper surface of all my mouthpieces - I'm not a biter by any means but a lifetime of little chips and erosion on my upper teeth cause them to badly scratch mouthpieces.

So first of all, engage a qualified instructor (not a converted clarinet player) to teach you the correct saxophone embouchure and make sure you're not getting into bad habits; but after that, if covering your lower teeth with something smooth and rounded prevents injury, by all means try it.
 
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Massage is one of the most common ways to manage scar tissue. Most effective during the healing and remodeling phase, but it’s never too late to move things around, increase blood flow, and see what breakthroughs one can have. It hurts if you’re doing it right, and expect some swelling.
 
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Yeah, I blame it on the nuns too - and trumpets. Trumpets were the beginning of the end of tone and dynamics. I’d say “Don’t get me started”, but we’re there, aren’t we? :confused:

I hope you get that embouchure issue sorted and can play without pain.

Be well,
George
 
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Here's a lower-cost option. I have not used this, but trust the source. Also references the Omni-Guard for comparison.

 
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Here's a lower-cost option. I have not used this, but trust the source. Also references the Omni-Guard for comparison.

thanks i checked it out! Its pretty cheap $3 for 1 meter. Now last night i played for 4+ hours and did not have the lip bleed problem. Thing is what was bleeding was a lot smaller then a pin hole. I could not even see where it was bleeding on that inner lower lip till i started moving the spot around a lot in my bathroom mirror. Probably the blood did its job and sealed up that tiny hole. This stuff i probably would not use unless i need to like 2 days ago so its good to have on hand. 1 meter of that stuff would last me a long time and i am wondering if any music store would carry it as what would it cost to ship probably not much using the post office
 
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Back when I was in music school my teacher taught me to roll my lower lip over my teeth. When it got uncomfortable he would fold a cigarette paper and have me put it over my teeth. It works really well and is cheap. I don't do it anymore because I play with a more loose lip out kind of embouchure now.
 
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I believe that as your embouchure develops, the lower lip area of contact with the lower teeth simply gets 'tough'. This, along with learning a looser embouchure and biting less is the answer for most. I hate to see somebody using those various gadgets on the teeth - they are preventing the lip from getting tough.
Now the OP has medical reasons and a very damaged embouchure. Basically anything he has to do to play is good.