[danodownunder]

SML rev D weighs in at 3.4andhalf kilos and the best sound i have heard on a tenor. Whats that in lbs ?

 

[Captain Beeflat]

Danz. At 0.35 kilos lighter than the Rampone & Cazzani, your S.ML. is currently the runner up to the title of World Heavyweight Champion .....Bb

 

[danodownunder]

And me with a stuffed neck, but hey thank god for spin straps. The SML is indeed heavy and NO high f# but ribbed post constuction and rolled tone holes and what a huge FAT and LOUD sound it has put my selmer to sleep.

 

[davidk]

Thread revived from the posting at http://www.saxontheweb.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34977.

King Super 20 (all brass): 3.2kg (7lb according to http://www.manuelsweb.com/kg_lbs.htm)

 

[Kritavi]

I have been told that the relavtively lighter weight of the Super 20 is due to the light weight of the keys and that the bodies are similar to those of other horns.

 

[blackfrancis]

Are we weighing the horn before the gig or after? From the 3rd set on, I swear mine gains a pound!

 

[Pinnman]

Without neck:

Tenor:
Buescher Aristocrat 200 - 6lbs
Selmer SA80 Serie 2 - 7lbs

Alto:
Buescher TT - 4.5lbs
Martins (various) 5lbs
Dolnet 6lbs

Baritone:
Conn 12M (low Bb) - 9lbs
B&H La Fleur (low A) - 11lbs

That's all I can remember, most of these being history.

 

[Wind_Mill]

Buffet SDA tenor, 3.4 kg
King Marigaux (SML stencil) tenor, 3.4 kg

Problem with my bathroom scale is, it only measures in 0.2 kg increments. That SDA feels a whole lot heavier than anything else I've owned, tenor-wise.

 

[A Greene]

I couldn't resist:

Alto: Selmer Mark VI (187XXX) original lacquer no High F# Body and Neck

5 Pounds 1 ounce
2.3 Kilograms

Tenor: Selmer Mark VI (95XXX) original lacquer no high F# key. Body and Neck - no mouthpiece.

7 Pounds 1/2 ounce
3.195 Kilograms

I have a postage scale that is extremely accurate.

 

[Giganova]

This is an absurd thread ... my Dodge Durango weighs 3 tons -- thats why its better than your BMW.... :dazed:

My JK SX90R nickel-silver weighs 2.9 kg, in agreement with what the Keilwerth website says.

 

[Wind_Mill]

Absurd? One-dimensional, maybe, unscientific, certainly .... I was hoping to see which tenors stood out in sheer weight alone. Some people (not me) want to play tenor but don't because they have aging backs, etc. and prefer something lighter. The info on nickel-silver Keilwerths is valuable in that regard alone.Some people (me) embrace the belief that horns with heavier-gauge bodies might give us a certain sound we want (or don't want).It's not a big deal, nor is it any less absurd than many of the other threads that repeat history here ad nauseam. Absurd as it may seem, it sure attracted a lot of hits (including yours, Giga....). Maybe more people are interested in these factoids than one would assume.
Before too long, I plan to compile a list of all the horns/weights submitted here, once it appears we have a fairly representative sample.

 

[Giganova]

Don't get me wrong ... I wasn't trying to critisize anyone here, but after shape, plating, color and whatnot we finally discuss the weight of saxes. I find that funny.

 

[Kimsey]

Just to add to the list, my YTS 61 (with neck) 7lbs 7ounces. I am suprised I thought a yamaha would be one of the lighter horns.

 

[paulwl]

Digital bath scale (readout only to 0.5 lb):

1929 gold Conn Chu weighs between 7 and 7.5 lb.
1933 silver Buescher New Crat, same.

More later. Don't expect much different.

 

[Frank D]

'49 Silver 10M - 7 lbs., but feels like a ton after awhile.

 

[Wind_Mill]

Buescher Aristocrat 3.06
King Tempo (Keilwerth New King) 3.13
Martin Committee II 3.23
Dolnet Belair 3.32
Yanagisawa T902 3.32
King Marigaux (SML) 3.41
Vito VSP (Yanagisawa T800) 3.42
B&S Chicago Jazz Earthtone 3.44
Buffet Super Dynaction 3.50
Dolnet Royal Jazz 3.60

These are kilogram weights for tenors I own, measured fully assembled (no mouthpiece) with a digital fish scale I suspended from a ceiling beam. Mostly old information I've posted before, but this time it's more accurate. I thought the CJS was heavier than the SDA, but I'z wrong. A Yani T880 might top the CJS as well. I recall someone posted a Mk6 weight that was on the low end of the range above. My conclusion from all this is, weight don't mean a thing past a sore neck.....

 

[cornific]

the load increases as the day wears on

wear and tear on the human body may not seem like a big deal but the weight of the horn is part of the ergonomic equation for me. when i was just playing an hour or two a day all i cared about was the tone of the horn but as i began to top four hours a day with my tenor around my neck i started looking for a horn that minimzed the accumulated load. my sml wears me out faster than my selmer. and while i am focussing on skills aquisition this is a lot more imoprtant to me than the tone of every note i play in the day. hey i like the sound of my selmer too. i was seriously considering a couf superba 1 to match my bass and bari, heck i love the tone of the superbas but in the end i went and hung some selmers around my neck for about seven hours one day and didn't feel at all worn down by them so now i am a member of the selmer club. even though i have yet to click with a super twenty i like the idea of a even lighter tenor so i will keep an open mind about that. i believe the weight is a very important element for me as i expect to be spending a good deal of my life with one hangin' from my neck

please weigh in folks, as soon as i get my hands on a decent scale i will be weighing all of my horns

 

[58tenor]

The infinite dissection of minutiae. This IS absurd! Get a haircut,take off your glasses, wear a lighter shirt or do some neck excersizes. Get rid of that boat anchor metal 'piece. Skip lunch. Better yet, let's get someone to make a magnesium horn. Or carbon fiber. Or just sit down and learn keyboards. Or piccolo. I have dicked up my neck worse from sleeping than anything else.

Strap a bari on for awhile. That weapon will make a tenor feel like a toy.

 

[Enviroguy]

70's Buescher 400 large bore with original neck - 7.4 lbs.

EDITED: My bathroom digital scales seem to be off a pound.

 

[tommysax]

Tenor: Yamaha 875 EX Silver Plate = 7.5 lbs.

Alto: Yamaha 875 EX Silver Plate = 4.5 lbs.

JT