I've read about B&S 2001 and Medusas, but not a whole lot on the earlier 1000 Series III saxes. Can anyone pass along experiences with these horns? Thanks.
B&S 1000 Series III alto & tenor
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B&S 1000 vs B&S2001 Tenors
Randall's sleuthing is pretty right on! I A-B ed the 1000 against the 2001 four years ago and bought the 2001in the sandblast finish. I would place the 1000 as intermediate where the 2001 is low end pro?
Also in the mix was a JK black nickel horn wich I thought was better mechanically then the 2001 and maybe? sounded a little better, but did not justify the price difference. I loved the horn and it is a great buy, but I have just sold it having purchased the Shadow to which nothing yet has come close.
Randall's sleuthing is pretty right on! I A-B ed the 1000 against the 2001 four years ago and bought the 2001in the sandblast finish. I would place the 1000 as intermediate where the 2001 is low end pro?
Also in the mix was a JK black nickel horn wich I thought was better mechanically then the 2001 and maybe? sounded a little better, but did not justify the price difference. I loved the horn and it is a great buy, but I have just sold it having purchased the Shadow to which nothing yet has come close.
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The 1000 III is not a bad horn. We had a few in here a little over a year ago for eval... they were built as well as their pro horns. I do agree that they made it as an intermediate horn (but I think they marketed as student and then replaced them with the 600 series if memory serves correct).
The problem is that when they were new for the price, I do not think they justified it... however, if they were less, then I would have considered them. Definately is a good solid horn though and compared to an student or intermediate Selmer or Yamaha, the 1000 is probably all around the better horn.
The problem is that when they were new for the price, I do not think they justified it... however, if they were less, then I would have considered them. Definately is a good solid horn though and compared to an student or intermediate Selmer or Yamaha, the 1000 is probably all around the better horn.
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I am resurrecting this thread to see if anyone has a B & S Series 1000 III Tenor for discussion.
It was recently gifted to me by my dad. I found this site which had some information on it.
Series 1000 | Bassic Sax (bassic-sax.info)
It was recently gifted to me by my dad. I found this site which had some information on it.
Series 1000 | Bassic Sax (bassic-sax.info)
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Thanks for commenting ZootTheSim.
What is the 2001 stencil? I have seen this before but not sure what they were mentioning.
Also nice to see another fellow Canadian on the boards. Cheers.
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The 1000 series is a continuation of the what is called the Blue Label but in gold lacquer mostly but sometimes two tone with silver keys and gold body. Point is it is not the professional series that came after that. The 1000 is a well built horn and plays well but it doesn’t have the modern refinement that the Medusa, 2001 and Dave Guardala.
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A Chicago Jazz Series tenor, though apparently the CJS isn't really a stencil but its own B&S model line, some of which were closer to the 2006 model:
Stencil Saxophones - Or Not | Bassic Sax
B&S made a lot of different stencil saxophones before and after Germany's reunification. This page looks at those that were made by the company post-1989.
bassic-sax.info
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Thanks Brian ... I appreciate it.
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Superb link ... thanks ZootTheSim!A Chicago Jazz Series tenor, though apparently the CJS isn't really a stencil but its own B&S model line, some of which were closer to the 2006 model:
Stencil Saxophones - Or Not | Bassic Sax
B&S made a lot of different stencil saxophones before and after Germany's reunification. This page looks at those that were made by the company post-1989.
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I really enjoyed my 1000 series. It was my first tenor and the first horn I’d played in about ten years when I got it. My lesson teacher had a 2001 in that (almost) black lacquer that looks kind of brown. We’d swap often in lessons because we were both looking for new instruments. He got a shiny new gold lacquer Cannonball BBSS that I didn’t like to play on. I got a Cannonball Raven that was pretty nice but looking back, not really much/ at all better than the 1000…I had it in my head it was the intermediate model and needed an upgrade. I should’ve bought his 2001, but he had another student lined up to buy it. Someone else in his studio grabbed my 1000 as well if I recall correctly. Anyway, I really enjoyed playing the 1000.
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Thanks for your reply SWPerry .... your comment is just what I was thinking ... lol. And yet, I am just getting back to it. "An updgrade" is what I was thinking but perhaps just a different mouth piece than the TL3. I am great with it being an intermediate horn ... and when there is a great opportunity, I will make a move on it.
I was thinking of a Burnin' Sax Tenor mouth piece or a Jody Jazz mouth piece - I have an HR* 6 for my alto and quite like it.
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I only know what’s been posted around the forum about the Better Sax gear, but it seems like people like it. I used a 6* Otto Link STM and it worked out really well.
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Good to know about the Otto Link STM - I am reading a lot of great things about their mouth pieces. Cheers.
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The 1000’s were well built and have good intonation and if fitted with the right mouthpiece would be a most useable in any situation. When I compared my 2001 and CJS to the F. Schmidt alto I owned I didn’t hear that sizzle I get when I played my 2001 alto.
The tenor was imho was much better in several respects that being sound, intonation and ease of play. It wasn’t quite as versatile as the CJS or 2001 tenor I compared it to, but in no means is it a bad horn in fact far from it.
The tenor was imho was much better in several respects that being sound, intonation and ease of play. It wasn’t quite as versatile as the CJS or 2001 tenor I compared it to, but in no means is it a bad horn in fact far from it.
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Thanks Brian for your input. I am looking at a new mouthpiece for it, have someone look at it ... and enjoy it. It seems from the link it was an intermediate sax and it has a great tone.
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Considering the upgrade on the 2001 and Medusa it would be the intermediate model if it were compared now
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Mention my name 3Xs and I appear. 
Unfortunately I have never gotten around to writing the web pages about the 1000 Series of horns by B&S for my website. However, in this article you will find some diagrams that chart the evolution of B&S horns from their beginnings as "nationalized" (VEB) to independent (VMI). (The latter after Germany's reunification.)
You will note that former B&S horns--commonly referred to as "blue label"--were the ones that transitioned into the 1000 Series. The blue label were, and remained intermediate horns after the transition.
Someone mentioned the 2001 as being a pro-horn, but not of the same caliber of the 2006 (Medusa) etc. lines. That is really not the case. I encourage you to look at the extensive B&S materials I have on my site. For a complete listing of what is there, please see the B&S Index page. You will note I have numerous original brochures that I have scanned and uploaded to the site.
All B&S pro horns were slightly different models, and had slightly different features. Even the stencils--that B&S seemed to argue weren't stencils at all--were not always the same as the original.
Unfortunately I have never gotten around to writing the web pages about the 1000 Series of horns by B&S for my website. However, in this article you will find some diagrams that chart the evolution of B&S horns from their beginnings as "nationalized" (VEB) to independent (VMI). (The latter after Germany's reunification.)
You will note that former B&S horns--commonly referred to as "blue label"--were the ones that transitioned into the 1000 Series. The blue label were, and remained intermediate horns after the transition.
Someone mentioned the 2001 as being a pro-horn, but not of the same caliber of the 2006 (Medusa) etc. lines. That is really not the case. I encourage you to look at the extensive B&S materials I have on my site. For a complete listing of what is there, please see the B&S Index page. You will note I have numerous original brochures that I have scanned and uploaded to the site.
All B&S pro horns were slightly different models, and had slightly different features. Even the stencils--that B&S seemed to argue weren't stencils at all--were not always the same as the original.
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