[bassicgruv102]

A Yamaha dealer told me that the 52 had the 62 body and a 23 neck.

I have a 52 and when using a G1 neck -- it sounds a lot like an 82Z!

I don't hear enough difference to buy an 82Z. This may be due to my old, old ears though.

Anyone else heard the 62 body on a 52 story?

Cheers,

Paul

 

[Russ]

I don't think it's down to your old ears at all. I think it's down to the fact you have a darn good horn and all the marketing hype isn't going to tell you otherwise

Well done you. A shiny new 82Z (although very nice) isn't going to make an almighty difference compared with what you already have, especially when you seem very happy with your horn.

As for the 52 thing: Here in the UK, the 52 was called the 32. I was told the 32 was indeed the same body as the 62 although without the ornate engraving.

There may well be something in it.

 

[maestroelite]

I thought it was the same body with differences in keywork, but who knows. I'm not a Yamaha man.

 

[DougR]

A Yamaha dealer told me that the 52 had the 62 body and a 23 neck.

Have you actually looked at these things? - with your own two eyes?

Try getting the "Dealer" to write that down in black and white.

 

[Morrie]

52

I'm glad you mentioned this. A local dealer has a used 52 in what looks like perfect condition that I can buy for a third of what an 82 would cost. I'm a beginner so I don't know anything about these horns. I can't find any info on the 52, which I understand was discontinued in 2002. Can anyone advise if this is a professional or an intermediate horn? I'm also considering a new 62 or perhaps a P. Mauriat. I have a skilled tenor player friend who will go with me next week to try all these.

My basic question is about the 52 and any info would be appreciated.

 

[SaxyJ]

Out of curiosity, how would you describe the type of sound from the 52 and the 82? Are they more spread, with a "free, airy" sound? Or more centered? The reason for my interest is I may purchase another Yamaha sax perhaps next year, as I am now a big fan of their horns.

 

[bfoster64]

I had a YAS-52 and it was better than a YAS-23 but I didn't like it much. Intonation was alright, response was so-so, sound was good if you like a bright, centered sound. A good horn for the money, but just an intermediate horn. There are some people who love the low-end Yamahas, but I'm not one of them.

 

[saxofunk]

This whole 52 vs 62 thing used to get beat to death on this forum. Years ago there was a member who was a Yamaha person, he confirmed the rumors - the 52 body is the same as the 62, the difference is that it is not annealed, it's not engraved, the lacquer is different and the key buttons are plastic instead of m.o.p.

I have played a 52 for over 18 years with no intention of dropping several grand on a supposed upgrade. A well serviced 52 is a great horn. I appreciate the OP comparing the stock pipe to the G1... I could be teased by a silver plated or unlaquered neck. (maybe Santa is listening )

 

[Enviroguy]

I'm still working on my soprano tone. It's been two years now off and on. Setup wise, this is what I have observed:

* The Selmer SS and Link STM are too bright for me.
* Larger chambered pieces sound fuller but don't respond as well.
* Larger tips help with a fuller sound but can make intonation more of a challenge.
* Soprano tone is very much a thing of taste and is not really quantifiable.

Right now I've gone back to the dremel tool and have taken the baffle way down on a cheap Maestro metal piece I got off eBay. While I've gotten pretty good at flattening the rails and table, I don't have a clue how to finish the inside of the mouthpiece, so it looks pretty ugly inside. But, I now seem to have a piece that seems to be darker than the giant-tipped RIA I was playing and yet has almost as a good response and better intonation of the Selmer SS. But I'm still experimenting. It's fun. But in end, I'm still the glad the tenor is my main horn.

 

[hornimprovement]

This whole 52 vs 62 thing used to get beat to death on this forum. Years ago there was a member who was a Yamaha person, he confirmed the rumors - the 52 body is the same as the 62, the difference is that it is not annealed, it's not engraved, the lacquer is different and the key buttons are plastic instead of m.o.p.

Also, the 62 is ribbed, the 52 was post-on-body

 

[Guest]

Model 52 is the same than model 32????
Model 52 has high F sharp and 32 hasn't!
This is a difference... I don't think it is the same...

 

[sycc]

Also, the 62 is ribbed, the 52 was post-on-body

Allegedly there can be benefits to post construction vs ribbed. Supposedly the ribbed saxes do not respond as easy as post on body. So your 52 may be a slightly easier blow than a 62.

 

[Coach Daddy]

Model 52 is the same than model 32????
Model 52 has high F sharp and 32 hasn't!
This is a difference... I don't think it is the same...

The parts list for the 32
has Ref. No 65 HIGH F# KEY TS32.

 

[DougR]

Model 52 is the same than model 32????
Model 52 has high F sharp and 32 hasn't!
This is a difference... I don't think it is the same...

The 32 and 52 are not sold in the same countries - USA gets (got?) the 52 - Europe and Japan the 32.

One of the common causes of conn-fusion is that 32 is just the same as 23 with the digits in the wrong order.

 

[Coach Daddy]

I thought that the 52 was a US/North American only model, and the same as the 32.

Another bit of confusion is that there was YTS-34II Allegro sold here. That model isn't even listed on the Yam parts list site.

 

[shmuelyosef]

Allegedly there can be benefits to post construction vs ribbed. Supposedly the ribbed saxes do not respond as easy as post on body. So your 52 may be a slightly easier blow than a 62.

My 82Z tenor is by far the most resonant and free-blowing saxophone that I have ever played. Fully ribbed construction.

 

[pumatheman]

hi to all!
I'm european (italian) owner of the yts-32 and I confirm it has the f# key.

can some one explain to me (a simple student:shock some things about:
what doest "ribbed" and "post on body" construction means?
what kind of difference is supposed to have with the sound? and for the annealed/not annealed body ?

thank you in advance

 

[BlueTrane2028]

"post on body" means that pivot posts are soldered directly to the body. Most pre VI vintage horns have this construction. "Ribbed" means that multiple posts are formed on the same piece of metal, a rib if you will. Ribbed construction holds up better to potential damage, and supposedly holds adjustment better over the long haul.

 

[rsclosson]

Not sure if this is relevant or not. Regarding High F#, my student's YTS-31 definitely has the F# key.

 

[shmuelyosef]

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