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I've been debating how to write this, for some time, and now that I've received some e-mails about Domain Transfer, I figured it'd be a good idea to post da information, as www.saxpics.com may be offline for a bit, while we get all the server stuff straightened out.

I had wanted to wait for the check to clear, first, too. Another week+ for that, but I figured I'd get a bunch of e-mails if the website goes offline for any length of time, so I decided a post here would be the best idea.

So, I'll offer the buyer-approved quote from the buyer:

"Saxpics.com will be under new ownership shortly and it will be sponsored by USA Horn."

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OK, the rationale (again, not being punny, but hey. BTB, I'm cutting and pasting some details that I e-mailed my host, Mark Bushaw, regarding this):

Completely out-of-the-blue, two different dealerships contacted me regarding buying my website, while I was on vacation last month. It's I had told USA Horn that I'd give them the first option to buy the website if I ever planned on selling. (I think that promise dated all the way back to 2003.) I told USA Horn how much the other dealer was offering and they matched it.

My desire to sell was really prompted by a confluence of events:

As I've mentioned elsewhere, I'm now back in college after a layoff of 17 years (this is my third stint in college: first was right after high school and the second was after a hiatus of about 3 years). This has cut into my time for working on saxpics.com and, well, just about anything else. I didn't really want the website to lie fallow, but I didn't see any other option. Both usahorn.com and the other prospective buyer said that they wanted to add to what I had built, rather than turn it into a marketing platform. (Another company e-mailed me in the past and actually offered me *more* cash, but I had no desire to turn saxpics.com into Pharmaceutical Marketing 101 -- in other words, someone found out that I get a lot of hits, but didn't care squat about saxophone.)

Secondly, my wife quit her job and moved to a different one -- at a $5000/year paycut. Combine that with the amount of college tuition I'm having to pay, I was overly stressing about how everything was going to get paid. I now don't have to stress. Something to be said for that.

There were actually several people and dealerships that have contacted me in the past regarding buying my website. Some were very serious, but I could never really bring myself to actually sell.

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One important question may be, "So, what's up with the Calendar?" That project is STILL a go. I have talked with a couple other sax websites and they said they'd be happy to advertise it and I'll pop it up on my new website. The calendars and the contents thereof were not included as part of the sale of www.saxpics.com.

Another important question is what's going to happen to the SOTW original eesite forum archive pages that I had hosted on my website. The short answer is that they will disappear (there are a variety of reasons for this). However, my statistics indicate that fewer than 30 people per week used the search function there (and that's the main reason I never put up more archive pages), so I tend to doubt that too many people will be affected.

I WILL still answer sax-related questions through my various e-mails. I also hope to do a few more things for SOTW in the near future and may contribute to www.saxpics.com on occasion.

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What's Next for Me?

1. My new website idea.

You can see my "tests" at http://saxinfo.scribblewiki.com/ (and yes, you can post and edit stuff). It's based on an idea I shared here about a month ago. It's nice because it's a) low impact (the research I have to do is very slight), b) YOU can edit it yourself: I don't have to be the end-all, be-all fount of all knowledge and c) I can play with a Wiki from any computer, anytime, as long as I've got an Internet connection.

I've said, a couple times, that if Wikis and Coppermine Photo Gallery were around when I designed www.saxpics.com, I'd have used those. They do most of what I'd want them to, but in a more convenient format.

Anyhow, this new website may eventually move back under the servers of my long-time provider, Mark Bushaw. I'm still testing.

2. I will petition Harri and the gang to change my user name, here, and possibly give me a title like, "The artist formerly known as saxpics". I want to do this for a few reasons, but mainly to avoid cofnusion with the "new" www.saxpics.com.

3. I'm going to assist, if necessary, with moving www.saxpics.com to the new server. Primarily, there are some interesting little hacks and cracks that the good folks at Coppermine Photo Gallery made for me when I started using that product and they're a little tricky to configure.
 

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This is breaking news to those of us in the vintage sax club. I have sticky posted this to the top of the forum page as a result.

Best of luck to you Pete. I can only hope that USAHORN will do half as great a job maintaining the site as you have. Thanks for all the years of research and terrific information you have gifted all of us.
 

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Good for you! Thanks for your work over the years, the site is an unbelievable reference for saxophone players. Enjoy a well deserved break!
 

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Amen to that. I hope you were well compensated for creating such a unique and valuable resource for the saxophone community!
 

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Thanks folks -- and stickied, too!

Actually, SIMA, one of the things I've always had a problem with IS maintaining saxpics.com: I never expected it to be as large as it is. If you've ever e-mailed me and said, "Hey, why don't you add a new section on $whatever?" or "Could you fix $problem?" you'd get my response of, "I'll get to it in approximately 1 year or so."

I believe USAHorn has a staff member devoted to all things technical and will be able to fix all those problems, along with his other duties. (It'd be fun if I could work on saxpics.com 8 hours a day, every day and get paid for it.)

bfoster64, the sale price was more than I had asked for, but a little more than 1/2 what that marketing company was going to give me. I'm compensated enough that I'm not gonna be hurtin' for cash, though. (Mark Bushaw said I should have held out for some sort of vintage bari in addition to the cash buyout :).) The next step is that I have to talk to my financial adviser and find out what taxes I have to pay and/or what forms I have to fill out. That's probably not going to be fun.
 

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SaxPics, it is good to see you well compensateted for your work. It will also be interesting to see your other website if you choose to continue. You said you were going back to school, whats your major going to be?
 

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Ugh. Google had picked up the old SOTW archive pages and I've found them to be incredibly useful when shopping for vintage horns and mouthpieces. The old posters like Gayle F., Sarge, Paul Coats, Paolo Tung, even Steve Goodson gave out a lot of useful info back then. Though I never again want to know whether folks think Sidney Bechet had a good tone on soprano.

Anyhoo, Congrats on the sale. I recently had a great experience at USA Horns, so I'm happy for them also.
 

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I know with similar sales, the original owner of the site still had significant input on how the site was run, and in some cases even got hired by the new company as part of the sale. Are you turning the site completely over to them, or are you still going to have some say in how it's run?

Overall it seems like a good deal for everyone involved.
 

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Pete, the very best to you........ your comments on Saxpics led me to buying a Buffet Dynaction as a (much) less expensive alternative to the "other" French sax ...... found a closet horn with very few hours on it, and I'm absolutely thrilled, your comments were spot on......... what a wonderful resource.

Al
 

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@ TJ: It was important to me that the person/company that bought saxpics.com was somewhat known in the saxophone community: there were a couple of individuals -- both just "came upon" saxpics.com -- and said that they wanted to buy. (There were a couple folks from SOTW that mentioned buying in the distant past, but no real firm offers.)

The idea that saxpics.com would go to someone whom I didn't have any real confidence would keep the website up and running was one of the reasons why I removed saxpics.com from public sale a couple years ago.

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@ Carbs: I'm in the Bachelors of Science, Information Technology (BSIT) program of study. Yes, I'm about 25 years older than the oldest class member (currently). Unfortunately, the school I'm attending did not allow me to transfer all my credits and "work experience". Essentially, I "have to" be in their classes for two years. So far, I've had the ability to teach two of three classes. I think I'm going to be fairly bored until I get to one of the programming classes. Then I'll be bored, not because I already know more than the instructor, but because coding gives me a headache (no offense to the programmers out there; it's just not for me).

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@ Art_Salt: All those, with the exception of Palo Tung, have posted here, FWIW.

Not getting too involved, I had to alter the eesites code very significantly to post what is currently there. I have not had the time (and definitely didn't want to expend the effort) to post more stuff. However, you might request Harri contact me and work out something so that we move the SOTW old forum stuff to the SOTW server, etc. (Yes, I have archives back to year 1 of the eesites forum, missing a few months here & there.)

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@ Ferret: The 'site will be completely theirs.

I really didn't like the idea of being told what to do with "my" website and I tend to treat others the way I want to be treated, so I didn't want to "shackle" USAHorn (or any buyer) with, "I'll sell this to you, but the condition is that I have creative control. It's all mine! Hahahahahaahahahaha ...."

Anyhow, it is possible that I will still contribute. There is no real "agreement" yet on that -- and I'd want to see in what direction they're going to go, first.

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@ alsdiego: You're welcome.

I initially started saxpics.com as a, "Look at the pretty pictures!" website. It evolved into history and such.

Hover, the overwhelming majority of e-mails I have gotten are on what to buy or how much is my horn worth. Not that I have a problem with that, but it was never my main focus. With my new websiteage, I can change that focus, a bit, while still be able to say, "Look at the pretty pictures!"

(Hey, it's hard to say that, say, the Vibratosax isn't pretty to look at.)
 

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"@ Carbs: I'm in the Bachelors of Science, Information Technology (BSIT) program of study. Yes, I'm about 25 years older than the oldest class member (currently). Unfortunately, the school I'm attending did not allow me to transfer all my credits and "work experience". Essentially, I "have to" be in their classes for two years. So far, I've had the ability to teach two of three classes. I think I'm going to be fairly bored until I get to one of the programming classes. Then I'll be bored, not because I already know more than the instructor, but because coding gives me a headache (no offense to the programmers out there; it's just not for me)."

For one who re-trained as a programmer aged a mere 32, I can sympathise ..... why, may I ask are you putting yourself through this? (BSIT looks alarmingly close to B*LLS*IT :D )
Best of luck, anyway.
 

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For one who re-trained as a programmer aged a mere 32, I can sympathise ..... why, may I ask are you putting yourself through this? (BSIT looks alarmingly close to B*LLS*IT :D )
Best of luck, anyway.
I had a choice: I could get yet another couple certifications (I've got, oh, 15-20 of them) or I could finish my degree. My company would pay for a portion of either.

From what I have read, employers are finally picking up on the fact that some certifications mean absolutely squat (for instance, one of the certs I have is as an MCP [Microsoft Certified Professional] for Implementing Internet Explorer Using the Internet Explorer Administration [tool]Kit), but a degree may be helpful when the next round of layoffs come.

As someone once said,

We all know what BS is. MS is more of the same. PhD is piled higher and deeper.
 

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My thanks to you also.

That site has helped me research a horn or two and was just enjoyable as a place to gaze at classic saxes.
 

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Pete, many, many thanks for the outstanding, often groundbreaking, research and the creation of saxpics.com that has become an invaluable and indispensable resource for the international saxophone community.

And one large tip of the hat to you for the kindness, patience, and thoughtfulness you consistently have shown in taking the time to respond to what I’m sure must have been a weekly flood of e-mail questions, especially those from yours truly!

Best wishes for good health, happiness, and fortune in your future endeavors!
 

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@ TJ: It was important to me that the person/company that bought saxpics.com was somewhat known in the saxophone community: there were a couple of individuals -- both just "came upon" saxpics.com -- and said that they wanted to buy. (There were a couple folks from SOTW that mentioned buying in the distant past, but no real firm offers.)

The idea that saxpics.com would go to someone whom I didn't have any real confidence would keep the website up and running was one of the reasons why I removed saxpics.com from public sale a couple years ago.

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Kewl :cool: You're selling, but not selling out. How rare these days :notworth: :thumbrig:

Can I invest in your new thing? I want to get in on the ground floor with someone who has a track record like you ;)
 

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Best of luck to you and thanks for your fantastic service!
 

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martysax is joking, of course, but there IS such a thing as a "History of Science" degree, so I'm sure he could work that title.

(BTB, I'll still put a date in the 2008 calendar for ya, marty, if you're gonna be buying more than one.)

In any event, I'm a computer tech: I fix computers and users. I had to go for a program of study that had "IT" or "IS" in the title or my employer wouldn't pay for it. Otherwise, I was considering finishing the dual-degree program I started 17 years ago, Computer Science and English, but changing Computer Science to Biology (I had been offered a full scholarship in that once -- I turned it down to go to school for music).

Even though I had lotsa college credits and "life experience" (i.e. I worked in the same field for 22+ years), I still have to complete the minimum class time, no matter what the degree. That equals to about 2 years.

Oh. If there really was a BS in the History of IT degree program offered, I would take it.

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@ Giganova: Good luck with your projects, too.

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@ TJ: Pseudo-clarifying, there was at least one gentleman here that was very high-profile and is very well respected by the sax community that said something to the effect of, "If you ever really need to sell and can't find a buyer, look me up." I did greatly appreciate that, too.

As I was mentioning to another gentleman who e-mailed me regarding this topic, I do still feel a little ... unsettled ... regarding selling the 'site. Where it was and with me at the "helm", I was pretty confident that it would continue in perpetuity, even if it never got updated again -- but, as I mention above, I didn't want to tell a buyer, "You must do things the way I want or I won't sell". (Although I felt like saying exactly that to many folks.)

BTB, if you want to do anything at all for me and/or my new project(s), just head on down to my Wiki and add/edit stuff and/or comment on how it should be improved. Or send a picture or three for my calendar project. Or say you'll advertise it on your website. Or just send cash :).

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Neil, you think I'm "patient"? Really? Kewl! I'll have to mention that to my wife! :D

Seriously, I do appreciate all the kind words everyone has written. Remember, I'm not going anywhere, just my website is. Heck, I got an e-mail this morning asking how many Martin Handcraft Imperials were made (probably 5000 to 6000, btb).
 
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