[soldenoche]

I just bought what appears to be a Buescher Big B tenor without engravings. The gentleman who sold it to me said is a like new clear lacquer, (..?). My only concern is that I've never seen a neck like that on any big b before. Can you guys help me out and tell me if that is the original neck? The site is still open on eBay even I already bought it. Please take a look and tell me if you can. Thanks!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170709264002?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

 

[Woosax]

Might be a Buescher neck, but it is likely later than the Big B era:

http://www.saxpics.com/?v=gal&a=6513

 

[Raphyel]

I think it might be original, just someone added a brace.

 

[soldenoche]

Thanks Woosax. Nice pictures too.

 

[maddenma]

No, that's a late 60's/70's neck from a Bundy.

 

[soldenoche]

Yea Raphyel, I tought so too, but looking at the pictures Woosax posted it might be a Buescher not Big B.

 

[maddenma]

I just bought what appears to be a Buescher Big B tenor without engravings. The gentleman who sold it to me said is a like new clear lacquer, (..?). My only concern is that I've never seen a neck like that on any big b before. Can you guys help me out and tell me if that is the original neck? The site is still open on eBay even I already bought it. Please take a look and tell me if you can. Thanks!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170709264002?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Just read his eBay description. It's a Big B by the serial number. Pictures are crap, but good enough to tell it's be relacqued. If it has no engraving at all that can be seen, it's been done more than once.

 

[soldenoche]

A Bundy? Too bad then!

 

[maddenma]

It should work just fine, I wouldn't worry about it. It's just not original to the horn.

 

[soldenoche]

God bless Ebay. I don't know, a Bundy neck? Well I'm not that good either!

 

[Enviroguy]

I don't think it's Bundy. Most of those have the brace bent at an angle towards the mouthpiece ends That one looks like a later Buescher neck to me. It's probably not the original.

However, a discussion thread on this subject from earlier this year indicates the the tubes for the post-war Crat tenor necks are almost all the same but with differing hardware all the way into the Selmer buyout days. Only the 400's kept the original pre-war tube design until sometime just prior to the Selmer buyout. I have several Buescher tenor necks (pre-war, post-war, Super 400, post-Selmer 400 and Bundy) and they all seem to fit this theory.

So, there's a good possibly that this neck has the same tube design as the original and is probably similar acoustically.

 

[maddenma]

Again, I wouldn't worry about it. It's slightly different, but essentially the same as what would have come with the horn to begin with, and isn't likely to cause you any issues. The Bundy tenor was a devolved grandson of your Big B. Essentially the same instrument (body tube) with the bell keys on the other side and without the pro horn's extra features. The neck wouldn't have had snap-in pads or norton springs in either case, and the Big B wouldn't have had that huge neck brace to help keep the less than careful from bending the neck taking the mouthpiece on and off.

 

[soldenoche]

I relly apreciate the infomation guys. A big THANKS to everyone!

 

[soldenoche]

Have a good night!

 

[maddenma]

So, there's a good possibly that this neck has the same tube design as the original and is probably similar acoustically.

Which was what I was intending to say, but without all the interesting detail that just makes these threads on SOTW that much more interesting.

 

[soldenoche]

OK. I’ve got the horn finally. It was apparently a relacquered. It had the wrong neck and it wasn’t in playable condition. I took it to USA Horn Sax in Union NJ. As soon as Mark took it on his hands, he detected it was bent. Also the bridge that links the pipe and the bell was unsoldered; most cork bumpers were missing; the pads were so dry out. I can’t believe the seller on eBay said it was like new and he also made clear that he had been repairing horns for a while. I had to fight the return on costumer support and I was asked to send pictures. Finally they decided that I was right and I returned it. I appreciate that Mark took a look and gave me an estimate for repairing. I would have done that but I’d have ended up spending the money that a horn in good conditions would cost and still have to deal with the wrong neck. I’m still waiting to get my money back anyway. I think I’ll continue buying from eBay though. They seem to be serious people, but now I know there are many lairs loose out there. So, be careful and make all the obvious question before buying and only buy when they allow returns, if you don’t want to deal with costumer support plus a couple of weeks and lots of emails.

 

[maddenma]

It's a common eBay refrain. Never buy a horn off eBay without expecting to have it overhauled. Key giveaways are:

Needs a few pads
Might need to be adjusted to suit your playing style
No returns

There are others. I'm just tired. Others can fill in.