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Also, newer does not often equal cheaper, and who cares what it looks like, anyways?

It's much more than what you might think - vintage saxes represent the legacies left behind by the masters. It's the tone. It's the feel. Many modern saxes lack a certain "something" only found in a vintage horn. Try one and find out.
 

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For me, it is the unrivaled sound quality. I'm sure that others will agree that a lot of the horns manufactured today are great, but as I proved with a visit to my local Sam Ash music store, the sound quality of my vintage Conn Transitional 6M is unmatched by the wide selection of modern horns that they had in stock. I even had a pro and a sax player that worked there play it. They both gave it a 9/10. One was unaccustomed to the keywork and the other would have wanted it in gold plate. The latter tried to buy it from me on the spot though. Try one:D. You will see what I'm talking about.
 

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ZephyrSax said:
Also, newer does not often equal cheaper, and who cares what it looks like, anyways?

It's much more than what you might think - vintage saxes represent the legacies left behind by the masters. It's the tone. It's the feel. Many modern saxes lack a certain "something" only found in a vintage horn. Try one and find out.
Where can you buy vintage saxes. and also what do you recommend for an alto?
 

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I wouldn't buy a rusty one. A vintage sax that's a good player and has been loved and cared for is a priceless treasure--at least to its owner.;)
 

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If you are good at repairs, etc. then go with ebay. If not, look here at SOTW in the marketplace section or contact some of teh online sellers. Lots of Altos for sale everywhere! I have about 6 up right now.
 

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Why get an expensive old rusty vintage sax when you can buy a cheaper new shiny one? Whats so good about "vintage" saxes such the Mark IV anyway?
By all means, buy that shiny new sax. The higher the shine, the better it will play.:twisted:


A horn this ugly will always sound terrible.
 

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Why get an expensive old rusty vintage sax ?

Because they don't make saxes the way Gus Buescher intended anymore. ;)

Oh, and here's the same shot as taken above, but of my horn:


Small photo, good looks, beautiful sound.
 

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I've said it once and I'll say it again..... a good horn is a good horn, period.

I think there really was more humanity involved in the manufacture of horns back in the day. More hand craftsmanship went into Bueschers and Conns in the '40s, Selmers in the '50s, etc. But there are still dogs from those years. And there are MANY modern horns that are just as good as great vintage ones. A lot of it's hype, a lot of it's true. I played an 82z tenor the other day that made me almost sell my Mark VI, but I tried a Mark VI alto in Pittsburgh one time that made me want to sell a kidney so I could buy it. It wasn't for sale.

And... of course.... it's ultimately the musician. The mind behind the music is pretty important. A good tool just helps you with the job.
 

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craisycraze said:
Where can you buy vintage saxes. and also what do you recommend for an alto?
Go here: http://vintagesax.com/alto.html to get an idea. You won't see any "rusty" horns on that site, though. There are many good sources. Also try saxquest, junkdude, etc. Ebay, you should know exactly what you are looking for and be ready to spend some more money on repairs.
 

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If you find an old vintage horn in condition, you may get the feeling that you sound unique because you are one of a handful of people with the horn. I mean the alto I've got right now sounds like no other horn and it's built like a tank. The project and sound quality of it is eye-opening to audiences and other players. You usually lose out on ergonomics though. But everything is a trade off, right?
 

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Enviroguy said:
Why get an expensive old rusty vintage sax ?

Because they don't make saxes the way Gus Buescher intended anymore. ;)

Oh, and here's the same shot as taken above, but of my horn:


Small photo, good looks, beautiful sound.
For shame! This is the Selmer forum! ;)

So here's a rusty old vintage Selmer had for a price less than a shiny new one (well a Flamingo anyway).
 

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Chu-Jerry said:
For shame! This is the Selmer forum! ;)

So here's a rusty old vintage Selmer had for a price less than a shiny new one
Wow, you're right! My, that is an old clunker. I'll take that rusty thing off of your hands to use for scrap sheet metal for $100. ;)
 
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