Found this clip of Mingus on youtube playing 'all the things you are'. After the bass solo there is a tenor solo (rudely interupted by mingus) .... any body recognise who the tenor player is? Looks abit like John Gilmore maybe? He's playing some really nice bop but Mingus starts singing during his solo which ruins it. Can anybody tell me who the tenor player is???
Who is this sax player playing with Charlie Mingus?????
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I did not see the video clip.... maybe it is Charlie Rouse?
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It IS John Gilmore.
Yes, he could play straight-ahead bebop as weel or better than most. (his chicago contemporaries were Clifford Jordan & Johnny Griffin) besides being an inspiration to Coltrane & Wayne Shorter, quietly contributing to their freer styles of playing of the 1960s, by his "outside" work w/Sun Ra.
Underated.
Yes, he could play straight-ahead bebop as weel or better than most. (his chicago contemporaries were Clifford Jordan & Johnny Griffin) besides being an inspiration to Coltrane & Wayne Shorter, quietly contributing to their freer styles of playing of the 1960s, by his "outside" work w/Sun Ra.
Underated.
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I don't see the video.
Add: John Gilmore play for decades on Sun Ra Arkestra.
Add: John Gilmore play for decades on Sun Ra Arkestra.
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Yeah Mingus! That is John Gilmore on tenor and Mingus harmonizing the trumpet part vocally. Danny Mixon on piano and Danny Richmond on drums. Gilmore can do no wrong no matter what the setting and when he freelanced around he played a lot of bebop with others like Elmo Hope, Paul Bley, Art Blakey, Freddie Hubbard etc.. my hero.
man, i saw that Mingus in Greenwich Village video years ago (mostly about getting thrown out of his apartment by the police after firing off a shot into the ceiling) and didn't recognize Gilmore in the short performance excerpts. more fool me. i saw the arkestra play at least a dozen times and not once did he fail to stop the show with one of his extraordinary solo epiphanies. Coltrane was right about him.
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Often when Mingus would sing like this it was 'cuz the band was lost or wasn't phrasing something the way he wanted it -- he was modeling what he wanted them to do. Since he was busy playing the damn bass, he was unable to go up to the players to punch each guy individually in the face; hence the singing (perhaps amplified here in a way Mingus likely didn't intend, thanks to the announcement mike?).
Gilmore's lovely here. Mingus is lovely here. Here's where this came from:
[EDIT: by the way, this is not, alas, a film of the entire performance. (In fact, performances regularly start cooking right when the film idiotically cuts away.) Instead, it's an intense, amazing, frustrating, and sometimes appalling document capturing some moments and aspects of the intense, amazing, frustrating, and sometimes appalling Charles Mingus.]
Gilmore's lovely here. Mingus is lovely here. Here's where this came from:
[EDIT: by the way, this is not, alas, a film of the entire performance. (In fact, performances regularly start cooking right when the film idiotically cuts away.) Instead, it's an intense, amazing, frustrating, and sometimes appalling document capturing some moments and aspects of the intense, amazing, frustrating, and sometimes appalling Charles Mingus.]
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