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I think Gerald Albright play white Selmer horns for a bit.
 

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This was an alternate finish that Selmer offered up until a few years ago. I'm actually in search of a Series III soprano with the same finish. I think that they look pretty cool, kind of like a modern Grafton...made out of metal of course.
 

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My old teacher had a white Mark six.
 

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I dig the white horns. I'd like to have a white Ref 36, but I'd imagine that finish adds some bucks.
 

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heath said:
I dig the white horns. I'd like to have a white Ref 36, but I'd imagine that finish adds some bucks.
Actually, it's not available any more. I'm not even sure it was available on the Serie III horns, but I might be wrong.
 

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I think it is still avaliable if you contact them directly in the selmer factory and askfor it.. A friend has a white SII bari and it is the coolest bari around!
 

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heath said:
I dig the white horns. I'd like to have a white Ref 36, but I'd imagine that finish adds some bucks.
No reason you cannot do it with one of your horns. There's no need to strip - just shoot right over it. The factory opaque finishes are alleged to have 5 - 7 coats of lacquer (in either white or black) to get complete coverage.
 

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Mike F said:
Actually, it's not available any more. I'm not even sure it was available on the Serie III horns, but I might be wrong.
It was available on the Series III horns. http://saxpics.com/selmer/s80.htm There is a tenor pic mixed in with the Series II horns, but if you look at the engravings you can clearly see the "Series III". I've seen other examples in other pitches as well. Selmer stopped the production of white lacquered horns about 3 or 4 years ago. I believe that Selmer used 3 coats of lacquer on the white horns and 5 coats on the black ones.
 

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It was available on the Series III horns. http://saxpics.com/selmer/s80.htm There is a tenor pic mixed in with the Series II horns, but if you look at the engravings you can clearly see the "Series III". I've seen other examples in other pitches as well. Selmer stopped the production of white lacquered horns about 3 or 4 years ago. I believe that Selmer used 3 coats of lacquer on the white horns and 5 coats on the black ones.
Yep, I thought that white might have been available on the III's, I just wasn't sure as I'd never personally seen one.
I'm don't know how many coats of laquer they used on the black and white horns, but I am sure that there where more coats on the white ones (which where supposed to have a darker sound than the black). I heard that there was one coloured and one clear coat on the black horns and two coloured and one clear on the white horns.
 

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heath said:
I dig the white horns. I'd like to have a white Ref 36, but I'd imagine that finish adds some bucks.
Get me a Ref 36 and I'll make it white for 50 bucks.:twisted:


The horn in question from the original post sold for $2,125.00. Not a bad price if it's in mint condition and much cheaper than that Conn-O-Sax the seller keeps trying to get rid of.

Mike, you may be correct regarding the white having more coats than the black. It's been a few years since I've read up on the finishes and I may have them mixed up. From what I remember reading, the black and white have 3 and 5 coats. This information came from saxforte.com a few years back when I was shopping around for an alto. The name of the site changed and I believe it was something like "selmersaxman.com" or something to that effect. They get their horns directly from Selmer Paris and at the time sold their horns exclusively. I believe this is the same site which stated that Selmer discontinued the white lacquer line. The information on the website has since been changed and I can not find another site with info regarding the white lacquered horns.

I did dig up some interesting information regarding Selmer's experimentation with colored lacquers from saxpics.com. Apparently they started with colored lacquers with the Mark VI. The black and white VI's are fairly rare. But most interesting is the possibility that there are a few rose and blue colored VI's out there. Dr Sax mentioned that there was a pink VI being sold in Germany, so it may be one of these extreme rarities. I wonder how many of the rose and blue horns were actually made.
 

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I did dig up some interesting information regarding Selmer's experimentation with colored lacquers from saxpics.com. Apparently they started with colored lacquers with the Mark VI. The black and white VI's are fairly rare. But most interesting is the possibility that there are a few rose and blue colored VI's out there. Dr Sax mentioned that there was a pink VI being sold in Germany, so it may be one of these extreme rarities. I wonder how many of the rose and blue horns were actually made.
Yes, It could have been 3 & 5 coats for the black and white - that's including one coat of clear, so 2 & 4 coats of actual colour. I owned a black Serie II alto for many years, and in strong sunlight you could just about see the brass underneath the finish. As I said though, I pretty certain that the white horns had more laquer.

Do a search on coloured Selmer MKVI's. There was a thread a while back about a blue or purple one that somebody had.
 
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