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I am a Senior in High School, looking for my first Soprano Sax. I have narrowed it down between close to 2 options here on the forum.
1) Is an Everette Schaffer Soprano Sax. 1920 Double octave key system, silverplated needs some work.
2) Is a 350 GL E.M. Winston Soprano Sax. Which is about double the cost of the Everette, but alittle cheaper after repairs material expenses.

What I want is something that after I get it fixed if it requires it, is something that I can take out of the case and play. If you were me which one would you pick???

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Carbs: I wouldn't pick either one. Any saxophone with double octave keys would be a gigantic pain in the tush AND worth NOTHING on resale, except to maybe a psycho collector.

The Winstons are cheapies, hardly worth the effort. I know, there may be someone out there who loves their Winston, but believe me, the vast majority of students, intermediates, and pro's would blanche at such a piece of junk.

You are NOT going to find anything decent at a cheap price. Sopranos are difficult enough without fighting the horn itself because it is a cheap piece of junk.

Face the facts . . . to have a decent soprano, you're going to have to pony up the bucks. Are there others who have found cheapies that play okay? Maybe, but they sure didn't get them by considering double-octave ancients, nor junk like Winstons. They stumbled across them AND were in a position to take the risk. From your posts, I conclude you are not a risk-taker.

Do I make myself clear? DAVE
 

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Never pick a horn by brand or whatever "deal" you can get (and ESPECIALLY from what a poll or someone else tells you to get).

Pick it up and blow it.... the right horn will speak to you.

Anything you don't fall in love with will turn to junk in your hands and you just won't play it... or certainly not play it well.
 

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Pass on both, you don't need the headaches both will give you. Save your money and keep your eyes open. You can do better. Don't waste time even think about these horns, they are lamp material.
 

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Dave Dolson said:
Carbs: I wouldn't pick either one. Any saxophone with double octave keys would be a gigantic pain in the tush AND worth NOTHING on resale, except to maybe a psycho collector.

The Winstons are cheapies, hardly worth the effort. I know, there may be someone out there who loves their Winston, but believe me, the vast majority of students, intermediates, and pro's would blanche at such a piece of junk.

You are NOT going to find anything decent at a cheap price. Sopranos are difficult enough without fighting the horn itself because it is a cheap piece of junk.

Face the facts . . . to have a decent soprano, you're going to have to pony up the bucks. Are there others who have found cheapies that play okay? Maybe, but they sure didn't get them by considering double-octave ancients, nor junk like Winstons. They stumbled across them AND were in a position to take the risk. From your posts, I conclude you are not a risk-taker.

Do I make myself clear? DAVE
Could not agree more.
 

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Neither is terrible attractive.

What budget are we talking about here? Ive seen older Antigua Winds sopranos sell on ebay for $300 or less in the last week. Not the top new antiguas mind, but passable models. By the time a tech casts an eye over them you are probably looking at $500 ready to go, less if you get lucky. Thats the minimum level I would want to start soprano on, its a tricky enough beast to master without handicaping yourself with a dodgy horn.

$500 is the entry point for one of Dave Kesslers own horns too, but it would be new.
 

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Sorry. I cannot vote. I would not pick either one of those. I think you need to expand the scope of your search. Most of us on this Forum have faced the problem of finding a good soprano sax to start with. But many of us came to the problem with a lot more experience than you so we started with a wide scope. The problem is similar for most of us not because we have a limited budget but because we don't know, going into the search, how important the sop will be to us. I started life as a pianist, a drummer, then a trombonist, then a trumpet player and that was it until in my 30's I decided to check out saxophones. I thought I might have been missing something. I had a very limited budget because my kids were small and going through clothing like crazy. I bought a very cheap tenor sax. I knew very little about saxes and had no close acquaintences in the business. I had moved a 1000 miles away from all my musician friends from when I worked the big bands. That horn was a terrible one. I got what I paid for. It did not even have a brand. It was made somewhere in Indiana. I found out how bad it was when my son took it in to his band teacher in school who was a fine reed player. He sent a note home. My kid got a new Bundy alto as a rental and went on to have a great time. I played that Bundy when I wanted a to play a good horn. My tenor worked ok above D1 and I continued to "learn" on it. (What I learned were bad habits.) I never knew what kind of mouthpiece it had either.

So here we are 30 years later and, when I bought a new tenor, I bought a Yanagisawa - what I consider the best horn made. When I considered the sop I did have a limited budget and I considered a Woodwind and Brasswind used $500 horn. I also considered a LA Sax, a Jupiter, a Yamaha, a Yanagisawa, a keilweorth, and even a Selmer of Paris. But I did not know how much of commitment I wanted to make. Was the sop going to be just a fad or the real thing for me? I chose the Antigua Winds from Dave Kessler for under $1000 and have been very satisfied. The horn is almost two years old. It has turned out to be the REAL DEAL for me. It is now my main "axe."

Someday I may buy a new Yanagisawa S991 when I find $3000 unattached and have worn the finish off my 590LQ. I'll probably get that one from Kessler too.
 

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