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when did yanagisawa sax's stop being handmade?
i've got several yani's A992 A9930 T880 and a 1979/80 tenor when the key work was more to a yamaha style than a selmer
previously owned a A880 and a S880 elimonia
this question is more for the A992 and A9930 which were made in 1997
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They still keep handmaking saxes in a relatively small factory with almost 200 hands :)

Have a look on the yani's process; how do you call this procedure, handmade or automated?

http://www.yanagisawasax.co.jp/en/about/assemble/
Thanks Kaz
I Would say they are still handmade.Even if they are not i still think they are the best modern horns on the market
trigger said:
Thanks Kaz
I Would say they are still handmade.Even if they are not i still think they are the best modern horns on the market
Yes they are. :)
Yikes! Check out "Bell section welding" - that person is soldering the bell with a torch while the horn rests in their lap! :shock:
Can someone please explain how a non-handmade sax might be made and give me an example? I'm thinking of some mad, Dr Zeuss-style robotised factory production line here :)

So far as I know all saxes are "handmade" and it comes down to:

  • Quality of the overall design and the design of each component
  • Quality of the materials used
  • Quality of the processes used in creating the components
  • The skill and experience of the craftsmen who assemble those components
  • The amount of time they are given to do the assembly in
  • The rigour of the QC process throughout
and perhaps...

  • The degree of corporate pride in producing a fine product
If I am wrong (and I may well be) then I'd be very interested to learn more...
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Nice avatar, trigger. ;)
Dr G said:
Yikes! Check out "Bell section welding" - that person is soldering the bell with a torch while the horn rests in their lap! :shock:
Ah, but it's worth it..... according to the web site, when completed, the Yani alto will have the following qualities:

"In shining brilliance, the ALTO conveys rich sound and
clear tone. From the moment that we feel the
instrument respond to an endless longing to be held,
it retains both an attraction and an ingrained skill."

???? ;)
alsdiego: Love it! Reads like it was written by an insane marketing major - or something was lost in the translation!! DAVE
Ah, but is it "briestly"?

Ref: http://www.borgani.com/saxophones.htm

"PEARL SILVER: Similar qualities of the Pearl Gold. Deeper and darker timbre. Very briestly sound. The most appreciated by all jazz players. See pictures of Our Friends and you'll see!"
I don't think I've ever experienced a "briestly" saxophone. Must be because the lacquer was removed (or is it a "large bore"?) . . . DAVE
fboratorre you take some excellent photos you should have copyrighted it
I'm off to see the great man next week at ronnie scott's

thanks for the avatar
Dave Dolson said:
I don't think I've ever experienced a "briestly" saxophone. Must be because the lacquer was removed (or is it a "large bore"?) . . .
We'll just have to get a Borg' for you then, Dave. ;) Leon and I both experienced the same briestly tenor and haven't been the same since. For whatever reason, neither of us can shake them.

The collective awaits...

:borg:
trigger said:
Thanks Kaz
I Would say they are still handmade.Even if they are not i still think they are the best modern horns on the market
even better than yamahas?
trigger said:
fboratorre you take some excellent photos you should have copyrighted it
I'm off to see the great man next week at ronnie scott's

thanks for the avatar
Trigger,

Is that Sanborn?
cyblord said:
even better than yamahas?
I find that Yanagisawas from the factory play nearly as good as they can (other than my personal taste in light spring tension), whereas Yamahas can be improved by disassembly and attention to details of friction and fit during reassembly. Other than that, the quality and keywork precision of both (IMHO) are head and shoulders above any other modern horns (and vintage) that I have seen. The remainder (response, 'tone', intonation, design, appearance, finish) is a matter of preference. The only unfavorable thing that I can say about Yanagisawas is that historically, their lacquer is not as robust as Yamaha or Keilwerth, but on a par with Selmer (also known for fragile lacquer)
Semipro it is Dave Sanborn
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