[BBJQSAX]

Maybe if enough of us fans of the V1 for alto make some noise about it, they'll consider that we all might buy it for tenor, too???

Just doesn't make sense that this option isn't out there yet!

 

[fusion1]

+1, would be cool!

 

[stevem]

How would it sound compared to the G1 or G3?

 

[hgiles]

How would it sound compared to the G1 or G3?

That's my question also. I didn't really notice a huge difference between a G1 and a G3 on tenor. But I kept the G3 just because. V1? How much different could it really be?

 

[rosski47]

I asked the Yamaha guys at the NASA Biennial last year if they would be making the V1 for Tenor.

Their response: "What does the G1 or G3 not do well enough for you?"

Frankly, I was stumped. So we'll see.

 

[shmuelyosef]

Interesting...I noticed a pretty big difference between my G1 and G3 on my YTS-82ZS, but I have also noticed similar differences in the past between two Yanagisawa alto necks of identical design, but different vintage. In the tenor case, the G1 is more responsive and tonally flexible, the G3 is higher resistance and warmer.

 

[BBJQSAX]

Yes, there are major differences between the G1 and G3. I have both (unlac) for my ZUL tenor and ZUL alto. If they can't hear the difference between the V1 and these other two necks on the alto, why'd they make the alto neck in the first place? It's simple - that's the difference I want on my tenor. Neither the G1 or the G3 on tenor does what the V1 does for their alto. Surely they can understand that, and if not, I'd be glad to send them some videos. Weird that they asked that!

The V1 not only takes the edge (highs) away, that are inherent in the G1, but it does so without creating the resistance that the G3 unquestionably has, or the blocky shape of sound the G3 can have in certain registers. Where the G3 seems to get its warmth while at the same time being subdued, the V1 is warm and focused, more like the traditional Selmer Mark VI sound. The G3 seems dark, where the V1 seems rounded, but not dark. The V1 still maintains a strong amount of punch and a very seductive shape of sound to my ear, moreso than the G3.

 

[hgiles]

Rahsaan, you make the V1 sound attractive. Though keeping it in perspective, you're obviously referring to what these necks play like on ALTO. The minute differences between the G1 and G3 (tenor) is like a split hair. I really don't see how the hair could split any more since the V1 from a design perspective is supposed to be 'in between' the G1 and G3. Perhaps that difference is larger on alto and hence justifiable. I just don't see it on tenor.

 

[BBJQSAX]

Hgiles, there are MASSIVE differences to my ear and chops (in both sound and playability) between the G1 and G3 necks on my unlac Z tenor AND alto. My estimation of the differences a V1 neck would offer on tenor are based in some part on an understanding of what the consistent and major differences are between the G1 and G3 models for alto AND tenor. (I have both necks for both horns, as well as the V1 neck for tenor.)

 

[hgiles]

Hgiles, there are MASSIVE differences to my ear and chops (in both sound and playability) between the G1 and G3 necks on my unlac Z tenor AND alto. My estimation of the differences a V1 neck would offer on tenor are based in some part on an understanding of what the consistent and major differences are between the G1 and G3 models for alto AND tenor. (I have both necks for both horns, as well as the V1 neck for tenor.)

So you have a V1 for tenor? I'd be curious enough to try one even though I really like my G3 and couldn't tell a huge difference in it and the G1 I sold. Do you have a prototype? Or did Yamaha make them? Last I heard was that Yamaha only made the V1 for alto. I am confused?

 

[BBJQSAX]

Sorry, I meant to say alto. I have heard that the V1 was patterned after the old G2, which I have tried on tenor.

 

[shmuelyosef]

That's my question also. I didn't really notice a huge difference between a G1 and a G3 on tenor. But I kept the G3 just because. V1? How much different could it really be?

OOPS! just realized that this is a duplicate comment to one I made above...space-case!!
Interesting...actually I noticed a big difference between the G1 and G3. Not so much in sound, but in resistance and response. The G1 is very 'immediate' with extremely flexible intonation (mixed blessing). The G3 is much more traditional with some resistance and a little less intonation flexibility (but still very supple compared to other horns). I prefer the G3 for general use, but the G1 is awesome for rock and roll. I play older large chamber Links and copies.