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Well, there are a few models of Selmer Soloists, so maybe you need to narrow it down to what you prefer. There's the short shank from the 50's, the long shank from the 60's and the "New Edition" from the early 2000's. I don't think you will find a similar design with Vandoren. Perhaps try one of the 3D print manufacturers. Maybe they can make one to spec. I have a Selmer Super Session for soprano and it's a nice piece. Just a little too closed for me.
 

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Well, there are a few models of Selmer Soloists, so maybe you need to narrow it down to what you prefer. There's the short shank from the 50's, the long shank from the 60's and the "New Edition" from the early 2000's. I don't think you will find a similar design with Vandoren. Perhaps try one of the 3D print manufacturers. Maybe they can make one to spec. I have a Selmer Super Session for soprano and it's a nice piece. Just a little too closed for me.
The 2000's would be just fine.
 

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There are no short or long Soloists for soprano, just one size and they did not make a modern version of it, just for the alto and tenor.
I've played Selmers pretty much exclusively on soprano for about 40 years now. The only thing I've found that is really close are some of the vintage RIffaults.
 

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Nope, square. Good piece, but not the same as an old Soloist.

Maybe a Brilhart would be similar?

Does anyone make a horseshoe chamber soprano piece these days?
The Vandoren V16 soprano mouthpieces have horseshoe chambers. Their design is very broadly in the soloist tradition, but they have overly aggressive baffles (rollover style, but too high and long) and as a result they sound overly bright for my taste.

Also, as Krivati points out above, the soprano soloists (unlike the alto and tenor versions) had round chambers.

The Mouthpiece Cafe Espresso pieces preserve this design scheme (i.e., the alto and tenor versions have horseshoe chambers, while the soprano has a round chamber).
 

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Brian,

I have one of these (in a 0.070" opening) if you're interested. I listed it in the Marketplace a while ago.
The Vandoren V16 soprano mouthpieces have horseshoe chambers. Their design is very broadly in the soloist tradition, but they have overly aggressive baffles (rollover style, but too high and long) and as a result they sound overly bright for my taste.

Also, as Krivati points out above, the soprano soloists (unlike the alto and tenor versions) had round chambers.

The Mouthpiece Cafe Espresso pieces preserve this design scheme (i.e., the alto and tenor versions have horseshoe chambers, while the soprano has a round chamber).
I checked them out on line and they look great. I am not fond of squeeze throats can you tell me if that is restrictive or free blowing?
 

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I checked them out on line and they look great. I am not fond of squeeze throats can you tell me if that is restrictive or free blowing?
The squeeze isn't severe and I don't find them too restrictive, but soloists are sort of the progenitor (or at least the promulgator) of the squeeze-throat design in soprano mouthpieces. So any soloist or proper soloist copy will have a squeeze throat.

I find it to be free blowing relative to other squeeze-throat mouthpieces, but not as free blowing as certain modern medium/large chamber mouthpieces.

In descending order, the most free-blowing soprano mouthpieces I've played on soprano have been:
  1. Drake New Era
  2. Wanne Gaia
  3. Gerber Solo LC
But they all respond and sound very different from squeeze-throat mouthpieces. All of the squeeze throat mouthpieces I've played have been somewhat more resistant than these three, but to varying degrees. I'd also add that the free-blowing quality isn't necessarily all upside. For example, while I love the sound I get with the Drake New Era, it can be difficult to control on the low end, and the palm key notes are much harder to hit reliably when playing it (versus squeeze-throat mouthpieces).

The MC Espresso is a very easy mouthpiece to play. The response and intonation is remarkably even across the horn. It's not my absolute favorite of the squeeze-throat designs (I prefer the sound I get from the Morgan Vintage), but it's probably the one that requires the least effort/adjustment to play.
 

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The Morgan vintage is a great piece!

I have a Soloist E but I'm finding it a little too closed at the moment. Although, It's one amazing piece that I got from Theo Wanne while he was in Philly.

If you want something focused but without the squeezed throat you should try Navarro pieces or call up Joe G at Soprano Planet.
 

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Ed Pillinger makes several soprano mouthpieces including two that might be of interest for people looking for something like the Selmer Soloist sop pieces. He describes them on his website as:

'S' Model - similar to a vintage Selmer soloist. However, the throat is a little larger than the vintage Selmer and this allows for more body in the tone. A focussed, classic soprano sound.

'P' Model - larger circular throat than the S. Also has a focussed tone but a rather broader quality of sound than the S model .


I have many Pillinger mouthpieces from 'nino down to bass, including C sop and C melody and they are really good.

Hope that helps.

Rhys
 

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I have two Retro Revival Shorty ( E, F) and two Selmer Soloist (D, F) so I've compared them side by side. I have to say that the RR are really excellent replicas. More powerful than the original Soloist but still retaining the beauty of the voice. My favourite is the Soloist D: I like the closed tip better. One RR and one Soloist might be for sale soon. Never tried other replicas (could be interesting though)
 

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Squeeze throats do not restrict airflow. They help with intonation on most sopranos by flattening the palm key notes that are easy to bite sharp. Airflow is restricted by tip opening and facing curve shape. But if you go wide on tip opening to get more airflow, you intonation control may get wild.

The Vandoren V5 S25 is nice squeeze throat sop sax mouthpiece.
 
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