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What is this Yani? I don't know much about them. The owner says he bought it new in 2004, but I know nothing about Yani's. Is it worth 700.00?

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So the guy lives like an hour away from me, haven;'t been to get pic but he told me the serial number is 04780331 written under MADE IN JAPAN. Strange, that serial number doesn't match up with the era it was probably made in. should be 00******... instead? from what I can find. the model number is not written on it anywhere the owner can find.
 

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Definitely not new in 2004. But it may still be worth $700. I would be inclined to say it definitely is. If has a pearled front F which dates it to earlier than 2004, 90s or sooner -- and no double arm bell keys. Yanagisawas are good horns. Play it and determine if it's worth the $700. Take a pic of the serial number where the model number also is...
 

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My limited experience with Yani's has been good, especially where it concerns intonation, and I respect the brand. Based on the apparent condition of this horn (the case interior looks like new) I'd go for it at $700.00 in a minute.
 

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Looks like a steal, go for it.
+1, absolutely; a lot of details of this horn say "A-6", which would make it a bargain at this price, especially since it appears to be in great physical condition. This is an older horn - probably late 70s to early 80s.

The serial number would help a lot in determining the model, but there are a couple of telltale details: The "Yanagisawa" engraving in this shape (simple, yet distinct floral on the left sight of the caption) first appeared as a regular feature on the 6 series; the bell-to-body brace is a two-point single-piece affair in contrast to the rings that were used on later altos (the tenors already had them); there's no high F# and a pearl on the front F (as has been pointed out); there appear to be stainless steel springs (visible on the first picture); the shape of the side Bb and the placement of the side F# are typical (and were changed on later models), as is the case with the flap for the accessory compartment, no dedicated place for the neck and the blue-on-white "Yanagisawa" brand strap.

A-6s are great horns: very free-blowing, rather bright (and powerful!), but also with a wonderful warm core - my favourite alto to date. Also, they're astonishingly sturdy, though the keywork deserves a closer look since there my be some loose rod screws (they're easy to tighten - shoulderless point screws!) and the occasional bent key, especially the side keys and table keys, though I can't see anything wrong on the pictures.

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+1, absolutely; a lot of details of this horn say "A-6", which would make it a bargain at this price, especially since it appears to be in great physical condition. This is an older horn - probably late 70s to early 80s.

The serial number would help a lot in determining the model, but there are a couple of telltale details: The "Yanagisawa" engraving in this shape (simple, yet distinct floral on the left sight of the caption) first appeared as a regular feature on the 6 series
Did the 500 not also have this engraving?
 

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Did the 500 not also have this engraving?
Yes, most probably (my T-500 *has* the same engraving - the edging goes a little less deep and is smoother, though). By stating the facts about the engraving I wanted to say that the sax in question is most probably not *older* than the 6 series. The engraving alone doesn't determine the age, of course. The other details seem to be more important - I have my A-6 and T-500 to compare directly, but data available for the A-500 is a bit spotty overall, especially concerning pictures - this is partly due to the fact that a lot of people mistake their 500 horns for 800 horns, which leads to misdocumentation (I've been mislead by that myself). The more sophisticated 880 series altos had the newer bell-to-body brace (a two-point ring brace) for certain, as had the late 500 horns, both alto and tenor, but one can't be certain about the early 500 series.

As to the qualities of the horns, I'd like to elaborate a little: My experience - which is limited to about half a dozen horns hands-on from both the 6 and 500 series - would suggest that the 6 series are the more original and resourceful horns, but the 500 series' aren't bad by any means. Just a little less exciting tone-wise, but at least equally well built. The 6 and 500 tenors I played side by side were pretty similar, though, with only a slight edge for the 6 that didn't justify the swap. On the other hand, I compared both a A-901 and A-992 to my A-6 and I was astonished by the huge sound I got out of the A-6 - in fact, the 992 appears to be quite a different horn, i.e. it has distinctly different merits, while the 901 is more of a direct descendant. Both new horns appear to be beefier and heavier, the keywork is very slick and well thought through (though the A-6's is by no means bad and very positive, if a little less sturdy and well layed out). But they also sounded a little less lively, though more refined, especially the 992, which clearly offers a rounder and lusher core sound; it was also more neutral and less powerful when pushed. The 901 was fun to play, very responsive and noticeably brighter than the 992, but again, it didn't match the A-6's sheer power and tonal flexibility. Bottom line: The 901 is surely one of the most price-worthy new altos out there, while the 992 is certainly one of the best and most versatile ones. But the A-6 has more character and certainly power than both of them.

At $700, a well kept A-6 is a no-brainer - except if you want to use it for classical playing; this'd probably mean you'd have to look for a suitable mouthpiece to tame it (which, in a way, would be a pity).

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I've got a A-6 with a slighly later date (0678****); it resembles the horn you have shown in all details I can make out (and yes, my horn is an *approved* A-6 :)).

I'd love to see pictures of early A-500 horns - does anyone have some to show? I know what the early and late 500 series tenors look and feel like, but early A-500 pictures have as of yet eluded me.

On the other hand, later A-500 horns are well documented online (wasn't aware of that until I did a more thorough search today); great pictures of A-500 horns can be seen here:

http://www.soundfuga.jp/SHOP/110524yanagisawa-a500.html
http://www.myspace.com/griff136/photos/22648906

Clearly, there are lots of differences to the A-6 in many details (among them high F#, bell-to-body brace, keywork - countless small and considerable alterations, a pants guard - the A-6 doesn't have one...).

Judging from the pictures, the only cost-saving measures seem to be the use of plastic in places instead of metal or cork or felt.

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Sorry, whaler, wrong year, and apart from the bell-to-body brace (which was in fact different on the A-4 as far as I can determine online), the keywork on this sax doesn't say Yamaha.

Look at the altos here: http://woodwindforum.com/?page_id=132

That's what my sax looks like - and that's what I see when I look at koyle23's pictures. The A-4 and the A-5 are distinctively different - pictures are available on the site I linked.

I stick to my statement - koyle23 is looking at an A-6.

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Congrats :) I'm sure it'll work out beautifully.

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You're right about the bell brace on the A-6 as well as the A-4, of course - but the octave key on my A-6 looks similar to the one on my Selmer (not exactly the same, but same principal, including the key itself) and quite different from the one on the A-4. I think that's one of the reasons that some say the A-6 is modeled after the Mk VI - the keywork, not (or not only?) the body. I wouldn't know about that from personal experience to date since my close-up experience with Mk VIs is limited to baritones - but I frankly don't care much since the A-6 is really a great horn all by itself, heredity notwithstanding.

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