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Wondering what might influence more in the shape of specific sound, the neck or the body (I mean, the rest of the horn).
Please excuse me for seeking some clarity here.
What I understand you to propose as a question goes something like this:
You have 4 differing makes of tenors. You have 4 differing makes of necks.
Each neck will play in tune with each tenor.
By comparing every combination, would you conclude that it is the body or the neck that most alters the sound?
[I am not asserting that this is the kind of thing you were thinking of. Perhaps you were thinking of something else. I thought of other possible meanings. If this post is distracting, let me know and I will give it a "whoops!" and delete the content.]
I agree with click, neck and body are part of a system.
Anyway the system has other variants too.
The oral cavity and embouchure of the player.
The mouthpiece on its own and as part of the system.
So, does the neck have a bearing on intonation?
Sure. Volume, taper and length have a bearing on intonation, not to mention the position of the octave pip.
Does the body have a considerable bearing on intonation?
Of course, why else do you think that people go on that much on key height, different length and diameters of tubing (bows) in different series of the Mark VI (for example) and the positioning od crescents (if one does that thing).
But this has all a bearing on intonation. Together.
As for the sound, and intonation too, the most important variant is the player.
We generally don’t say that Michael Brecker had a Selmer sound (and a Silverplate neck) we say that he had a Brecker sound.
My favorite is always Sonny Rollins that played on countless mouthpieces and at least three different brands ( Buescher King and Selmer) and always sounded like Sonny Rollins
So, is it the neck, the body, the mouthpiece, the player, the reeds?
You can ask directly, he is a member here (and I have no particular reason to distrust a fellow member )I'll pay him 3.50 for one for my horn. He doubles his money ?
I am glad my neck became something of good conversation here. I did nothing to the parts other than beeswax them together and then used the torch only after pitch was in a close place.I got lucky with how things just fit together and especially the actual sax neck socket. Glad to be part of this forum, thank you, Bob Magnuson
Ah....I see that , thanks....I stand corrected.it is not tapered, we already went through this in another thread
It is made of three different sections
You can ask directly, he is a member here
The price is not irrelevant in regards to what his vid is pitching....because it was the price claim which was clickbait. Therefore what he claims in his vid is a lie.I think that the price is irrelavant the point is that one can make a neck of tubing and that is pretty much proven by Mr. Magnusson in his video, whether more or less expensive, to me, to the purpose of this thread, it is irrelevant.
Fair enough...and thanks for the clarification....so since I untracked the convo...let me re-track it.....thank you, that was my case
~ In certain models I can think of, the BODY IS so unique in its specification that a non-factory neck match is incredibly hard. Martin Comm III being one example which jumps to my mind (and not because of the tightening mechanism, but because of the uniqueness of the neck design)if the neck would be so important as to be fundamental it would be ridiculous to put aftermarket necks for sale that are not a perfect match to one horn for sale on other saxophones, but also the other way around, if the body would be that important then it would be impossible to match something not specific to it.
When I saw this video I was cured of many hangups. If you can make a neck out of copper pipes for household appliance then things are not that critical.
I know you have linked to that vid of yours before....would you mind providing that link again ?And I've tried many necks. My intonation issues weren't a factor. I didn't have noticeable ones. I do a video on You tube of three necks on two different horns. The necks make a big difference. That why you see many many pros buying aftermarket necks. like Gloger. k