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I cannot even fathom the idea behind this design. No, it’s not mine lol. I just came across it on eBay figured it was so WILD that I just had to ask here. Anyone have even the slightest idea about the reasoning for something as absolutely unheard of as this Eugene Rousseau below? Just curious btw.
 

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I wish the seller showed us the inside of the chamber. I’m curious as the what madness is going on in there lol
 

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Well I’ll be damned lol. Knowing Eugene is such a respected name in this world I knew it had to be something that was more than just a funky design lol. How cool is that lol. Anyone have any experience playing such a design.
 

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I guess it shouldn’t be much different than those early brillharts with those squeezed in chambers but it appears that it squeezes in and then goes into a much larger chamber so just curious how that might sound. Apparently it hasn’t caught on unless he got the design itself patented
 

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No you're still right, that's an oddball piece. The JDX pieces (I've owned and what you see on the website) don't have that type of oversized wavy rails. Seems like a prototype maybe or someone had some fun experimenting on it.
 

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No you're still right, that's an oddball piece. The JDX pieces (I've owned and what you see on the website) don't have that type of oversized wavy rails. Seems like a prototype maybe or someone had some fun experimenting on it.
That's my thoughts as well. All of the JDXs I've played were angular and not curved and the rails were pretty standard. I wonder how that piece came to be? I wonder if Jody Espina knows?
 

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That's my thoughts as well. All of the JDXs I've played were angular and not curved and the rails were pretty standard. I wonder how that piece came to be? I wonder if Jody Espina knows?
I am pretty sure, as alluded to above, it was a prototype and pedates the Espina period.
 

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so those of you have played the other Rousseau pieces. What were your thoughts about them? Did you like them, were they so-so, were they fantastic? I’ve always been curious as to how they sounded since I always found that squeezed baffle or rather chamber to be quite an interesting design. I would love to hear more about anyone’s past experiences with any of these new used or even funky looking Rousseau mouthpieces. Thanks
 

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so those of you have played the other Rousseau pieces. What were your thoughts about them? Did you like them, were they so-so, were they fantastic? I've always been curious as to how they sounded since I always found that squeezed baffle or rather chamber to be quite an interesting design. I would love to hear more about anyone's past experiences with any of these new used or even funky looking Rousseau mouthpieces. Thanks
You may quite readily find a piece that suits you more but they're a fabulous back-up piece. So yeah they're definiately worth tryin'
 

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so those of you have played the other Rousseau pieces. What were your thoughts about them? Did you like them, were they so-so, were they fantastic? I've always been curious as to how they sounded since I always found that squeezed baffle or rather chamber to be quite an interesting design. I would love to hear more about anyone's past experiences with any of these new used or even funky looking Rousseau mouthpieces. Thanks
If you look at the normal design, it's nothing much like this one. Here's the internal of a normal JDX:
Rim Auto part Circle Font Metal



The pieces are pretty straightforward with a decent baffle for a bit of edge. They are pretty solid I really enjoyed mine (pre Jody Jazz ownership) until I got onto some hand finished pieces.
 

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This has been discussed here before, as Mark pointed out, the design is based on Frank Wells´patent from 1984.
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Rectangle Font Line Parallel Slope

Not sure what the connection is to Rosseau´s mpcs of course, perhaps, indeed, a prototype.
You find more here:
 

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We would all probably be very surprised how many silly shaped rail and chamber configurations would play just fine as long as the internal volume what kept in check.
 

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I wonder how many people would pay extra for custom silly chamber designs. I want mine to look like two faces. Or a candleholder.
 

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This is a sidewall version of a baffle insert. Certainly quite novel! It causes faster air velocity, which increases the force on the reed via a Bernoulli effect. This is why high baffle mouthpieces or adding a baffle insert make mouthpieces play louder with less effort. I've added baffle inserts to most mouthpieces I've used, to very satisfactory effect; but never tried building out the sidewalls like this.

This is, by the way, the same shape, more or less, of nozzles in solid fuel missiles. Again, the aim is to increase the velocity of exiting gases.
 

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This is a sidewall version of a baffle insert. Certainly quite novel! It causes faster air velocity, which increases the force on the reed via a Bernoulli effect. This is why high baffle mouthpieces or adding a baffle insert make mouthpieces play louder with less effort. I've added baffle inserts to most mouthpieces I've used, to very satisfactory effect; but never tried building out the sidewalls like this.

This is, by the way, the same shape, more or less, of nozzles in solid fuel missiles. Again, the aim is to increase the velocity of exiting gases.
This is a cool concept. I wonder if Frank thought of it this way or was more intuitive?
 

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I have a JDX just like the OP's so it's not a one-off. But it sure is unusual. I actually like the way it plays, Volume, but not harsh.
 
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