I agree. Some of these might be more important or beneficial than others, depending on what you're trying to accomplish, but none of them are a waste of time. In reflecting on myself, I would say the thing I've done that comes closest to being a waste of time has been spending extended periods of time trying out different mouthpieces or reeds even after I already had a set up that worked well for me. But I think it's fun to try out different stuff, so even that is not a total waste (IMO).None of these are a waste of time. You have to prioritize depending on how much time and what your needs are but I see benefits to all of these things.
+1 Since joining SotW a few months ago I've been working on this a lot, but I've got a long way to go.There is one thing that was left out, and is often under rated.
I completely agree with that.None of these are a waste of time. You have to prioritize depending on how much time and what your needs are but I see benefits to all of these things.
Only singers would do that....Trust me, if you do enough gigs in your lifetime some singer will eventually call Body And Soul in the key of "E."
Absolutely, that's why you have to prioritize. If you spend all your time learning Cherokee in 12 keys, you're missing out on a lot stuff you have to work on.It all depends on what your goals are in developing your musicianship. If you truly want to play music (any style) at a high level there's a TON of stuff that you are gonna have to learn...and learn it well!!!
Yeah, I do that. Sometimes I even find myself playing a tune in a key I've never played it in and only realize it half way through. I attribute that capability to working on licks in 12 keys.....What isn't a waste is learning a tune in one key and then, because you have developed your ears to a large extent, you can automatically play the tune in any key without having to "learn" it in that key, you just "hear" the intervals and play. I can do that with some simple tunes, more complex ones take more work, my ears aren't really (yet) that good but I know many people whose are.
Playing tunes in all keys is a major part of my practice. First I learn them by ear on the piano from a recording that I like. I figure out how to play the melody and voice the chords underneath. Then I do it in other keys to be sure I understand the construction of the song and the function of all the chords.I said none of the above, but learning tunes in 12 keys can be a waste of time.
I wouldn't underestimate that one. That and Rhythm Changes in all keys. While I'll likely never call Cherokee on a gig I practice it regularly in all keys. Remarkably, my free playing is much more accurate after this kind of practice. It gets the cobwebs out of my ears in a hurry!If you spend all your time learning Cherokee in 12 keys, you're missing out on a lot stuff you have to work on.
I have to respectfully disagree. Sure, playing Body and Soul in E may never show up in real life, but there is a lot to be gained from being able to play it in E - namely the effect it would have on your ear training. To me, playing in all 12 keys is more of an ear-training exercise than a music memorization exercise.The only one I voted for was "Learning tunes in 12 keys".
If I practiced 8 hours a day maybe, but it's very unlikely that someone is going to call Body and Soul in E.
There are however a couple of tunes that I've learned in 2 or 3 different keys because they are sometimes called in those keys.
Note that I didn't say "playing tunes in all keys is a waste of time", I said "learning tunes in 12 keys can be a waste of time"
Yes, that's why I find playing licks in 12 keys very important, you can easily run through a lick in 12 keys in one practice session.I have to respectfully disagree. Sure, playing Body and Soul in E may never show up in real life, but there is a lot to be gained from being able to play it in E - namely the effect it would have on your ear training. To me, playing in all 12 keys is more of an ear-training exercise than a music memorization exercise...
Playing what you hear, not where your fingers want to go is what I struggle with, I may have to suck it up and start practicing in 12 keys. Where for you it's a few days for a tune, a project like that may take me yearsI make sure I'm playing what I hear and not stuff my fingers like to do. I'll spend all afternoon working on two or three keys. In a matter of some days I've gotten through all twelve. No printed music involved.
In the end it's like singing on the horn. Hard to think of something better to practice. It's fantastic for the ears. Interestingly enough, playing it in all keys helps me to play it that much better in any one key. Helps in so many other ways too...