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So my son is 9 and will be playing in school band next year.
He wants the black saxophone.

I know that Yamaha and Jupiter are great for beginners but they don't seem to sell sax in black?

I have seen this Suzuki....
https://www.scmusic.com.au/product/...eries-authorised-suzuki-dealer-free-shipping/

And this Steinhoff.....
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Ste...048473?hash=item2884673659:g:kkYAAOSwo4pYi0-v

We are in Australia and I am after any feedback on the above saxophones.
Or - if you know of any others that would be better - in black that I should consider.

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Well, I guess the key here is what's your budget? Saxophones with black finish are not student level horns. You may find some cheaper brands (Chinese) that offer in black but the quality is suspect. Research is required to find a good one. Here is a descent horn in black nickel but still more than the average student level price. https://www.wwbw.com/Selmer-SAS280-La-Voix-II-Alto-Saxophone-Outfit-463725.wwbw
 

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Cannonball made black saxophones with black key touches - maybe they still do (I used to have a 98 Knight tenor that was black) . Not sure if there are distributors where you are.
 

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So my son is 9 and will be playing in school band next year.
He wants the black saxophone.
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Well, of curse you will end up with a list including all the black saxophones on the market.

Jupiter has made for a long time a line of black lacquered saxophones. Their quality, is at least as good as Yamaha ( they also make black lacquer saxophones but only the more expensive model 82Z).

You can call Matthews in the NL they export all the time to Australia at very competitive prices .

https://www.matthewsmuziek.nl/en/yamaha-alto-sax-yas-82zb-custom-z-series.html




 

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For a nine year old, you might consider a Nuvo Jsax as a first step. I'm getting one for my 10 year old.
 

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As much as I like NUVO products I don’t suppose the band director will like a plastic “ so called “ sax”?


Some people have a longer stride than others. At 10 here are good players out there (or at least they have a better sound than the NUVO has in the hands of a player)





even with all its imperfections this one sounds better than a NUVO

 

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Thanks for the replies so far.

Sorry I should have added more detail....

Needs to be Alto.
Budget $1k - $2k Australian.
Band Teacher will not let in a Nuvo flute (my daughter wants to play flute). I think she would have a pink fit if I tried to get my son the Nuvo Sax.

Band Teacher has recommended student level Yamaha and Jupiter ONLY.
I think that perhaps these brands are missing some market if they don't make students models in black. :)
 

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I think that perhaps these brands are missing some market if they don't make students models in black. :)

Jupiter does make the black in “ student’s” version. The 767 is a rather basic model although there are cheaper series too (not in black)
 

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I am also looking at a second-hand sax - a Trevor James Revolution 2.
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/cannon-hill/woodwind-brass/alto-saxophone-trevor-j-james/1232159374

The ad above says Black and Gold with Perl Keys.

So - anyone got any idea on how old this Sax might be (when was the Rev. 2 manufactured?).
Would this be appropriate for a beginner?
Given the price - plus the cost of a full service - is this a reasonable price for this sax?

Sorry for all the newbie questions - I really have no idea.
 

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milandro - I didn't see any Jupiter in black. I will go to Music Express and Ozwinds on the w'end and start asking.
Thank you for letting me know that one does exist.
 

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milandro - I didn't see any Jupiter in black. I will go to Music Express and Ozwinds on the w'end and start asking.
Thank you for letting me know that one does exist.
Well, I gave you a picture of a black Jupiter model 767! ^

If you call Matthews ( or email them) I am sure they can get you that particular sax ( They sell Jupiter even though it is not on their website) they speak english very well and are internet sales specialists (alongside the physical shop in the NL)

Matthew's Muziek
Lingerzijde 30-32
1135 AR Edam

Tel.:+31(0)299-371999
E-mail: [email protected]


 

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milandro - I will get in touch with matthews via email.

You mentioned that the quality is not great though?
Would you say that about all Jupiter student sax's - or just their black one?
And - not good as in the build quality or the sound or something else?
 

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milandro - I will get in touch with matthews via email.

You mentioned that the quality is not great though?
Would you say that about all Jupiter student sax's - or just their black one?
And - not good as in the build quality or the sound or something else?
Where did I say that?:shock:

Jupiter has made for a long time a line of black lacquered saxophones. Their quality, is at least as good as Yamaha ( they also make black lacquer saxophones but only the more expensive model 82Z). ]
You misintepreted what I said in response of tout post about Yamaha and Jupiter ....
Band Teacher has recommended student level Yamaha and Jupiter ONLY.
I think that perhaps these brands are missing some market if they don't make students models in black. :)


The fact that a 767 is an affordable model takes nothing away from its quality! Yamaha only makes one of their most expensive models in black.



I said completely the OPPOSITE, their quality is at least as good as a comparable Yamaha model.
 

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I hope he is very careful with thinks.

A black sax looks pretty crappy when it gets scratches on it. Far worse than a regular finish.
Absolutely! An black lacquer will scratch if you are not MORE than careful
 

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Definitely get him a real saxophone :)
 

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I think a black horn might be more difficult to sell also...especially ifs scratched up.

I dont care for black horns and would not buy one unless it was a steal for reasons of personal taste. If it was scratched I wouldnt either because they get nasty looking.

I dont buy silver horns either...Im not interested in trying to keep tarnish away and constantly cleaning it....but Id take silver over black any day.

Does anyone make a sax with a herringbone finish? :)
 

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Amati made (makes?) student horns in black lacquer. I've had a few through my hands and would rate them with Yamahas and Jupiters.

I don't need it at all, but this one on eBay is cheap enough to have my attention. If you were in the states, I'd absolutely recommend it for your son. Being in Australia, it may still be worth investigating but it adds a number if hurdles. It may need some servicing on arrival, but overall it looks in good shape.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Amati-Kras...310573?hash=item48d81b42ed:g:aQkAAOSwYUpd2fc~
 
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