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I'm looking at picking up a Weltklang Bari. I've read through all the archived threads here, and many people have good things to say about them.

All the posts seem to refer to Silver plated ones though. The one I'm looking at is just a regular brass laquer with nickel plated keys. Are these horns identical to the silver plated ones (except of course for the silver plating)? Do they feature the rolled tone holes?

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Tim
 

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I saw such baritones. It is seems to me only earlier Weltklang baritones have such variant - lacquered and nickel keywork. I saw with rolled tone holes. But I can not say nothing about sound.

I also saw similar model for vintage B&S tenors - lacquered and nickel keywork (usually B&S saxes to 1990 year were silver plates horhs). Bad sound.
 

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Certainly with Weltklang tenors, it was the later (GDR, e.g. 60's) produced ones that had the lacquered body and nickel keywork - and no rolled toneholes. The earlier (pre WW2) Weltklang silver plated tenors were much different - I had one of the 60's Weltklang tenors fpr a while, and it was, well, a solid sax but a bit 'agricultural'.....

Not sure if this applies to bari's, but I'm sure I saw the whole range (s/a/t/b) of lacquer+nickel GDR Weltklang saxes in the 60's, none with rolled tone holes, and aimed at the cheaper end of the market.

But then a lot of those 60's GDR horns (esp. tenor & bari) were used extremely hard by pro and semi-pro players alike, in touring soul and blues bands where the horns took a lot of rough handling, and they survived !
 

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As I understand it, Weltklangs were not made before WWII - they are a product of post-War nationalised manufacturing.
 

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I just found out that the sax doesn't have rolled tone holes. The serial number is #7481 and the bell is engraved "Soloist Weltklang". Any further thoughts? Could this be a B&S horn that is marked Weltklang? I'm tempted to leave it,as it seems most of the positive reports are of the Silver Weltklang.
 

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saxtim - "Soloist" or "Solist" ? The GDR ones (no rolled toneholes, student fodder...) were engraved "Weltklang Solist"

sax-ony - I've never dated (no jokes please...) the 'other Keilwerth-involved Weltklang rolled-tonehole baritones, which were produced to a much higher standard, like this one from USA Horn. But I wouldn't exactly class these as a "product of post-War nationalised manufacturing" - although this could be post WW2 as well, anyone know for sure ?

http://usahorn.com/instView.usa?id=295 (saxtim - this is NOT a GDR 'Solist')
 

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Sorry, it was Solist. So it must be one of the student type horns. I think i might end up passing on it and looking for something else.
 

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Saxtim - If the Solist is cheap, they do have a reasonable sound, at least the tenor did, but try it first....
 

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actually the Solist is the better model.

I own a solist model (8664) w/o rolled tone holes, Lacquer and nickel plated keys. I compared it to several other horn including the non solist model. and its definetely better.

As I am a bit clumsy sometimes and the bari is very big, I'll stick with mine. Good Sound, useable intonation and handling. I got mine really cheap, so a good deal for me.

It's my main horn, fyi.
 

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Hi,
actually the Solist is the better model.

I own a solist model (8664) w/o rolled tone holes, Lacquer and nickel plated keys. I compared it to several other horn including the non solist model. and its definetely better.

As I am a bit clumsy sometimes and the bari is very big, I'll stick with mine. Good Sound, useable intonation and handling. I got mine really cheap, so a good deal for me.

It's my main horn, fyi.
Interesting - when you say you compared it to a non Solist model, do you mean you compared it to one of the silver plated Weltklangs like in the link that cmelodysax provided above? Have you compared it to any other well known baritones, and if so how did it compare in sound, mechanics and tone?

Thanks!

Tim
 
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