ving said:
Is anyone else really tired of the hype of vintage mouthpieces? Just searching ebay or some dealer sites and its tiresome to read all the descriptions of "killer" and "minty" florida links. Man, its really out of hand....
IMHO and for my tastes the links from the late/mid 50s to the early 60s are some beautiful beautiful things and worth absolutely every penny people pay for them even if you have to get them worked on and have to buy more than one before they find a good one.
Thomas said:
hobbyists and collectors are offered and buying mostly myth when the term "vintage" is attached to mpcs and horns.
This is really out there... Mouthpieces and horns are hard and fast physical reality objects... not in any way myths. They are made on a certain date by a certain manufacturer and have cetain physical characteristics.
I know we live in a psychobable world where everything is an "addiction", we all have "GAS", we have to "just get over it" and everything is "all in our minds" but physical objects are real physical objects and have absolutely nothing to do with our imagination.
ving said:
I am just tired of the hype with vintage horns, mouthpieces, etc. I have always been interested in equipment and mouthpieces, but for my personal playing it just gets in the way of actually playing music and improving, which is hard enough.
how in the world can someone get "sick and tired" of other people trading around physical objects for money ? and more importantly how can something that is a basic essential to playing the saxophone (a mouthpiece) "get in the way" of playing the saxophone ? (it is kind of in between us and the saxophone) So here again we are seing "mouthpiece" physical object transformed into an imaginary part of psychobable counseling culture of ~off the wall~ "addiction" concepts. it makes us "sick and tired" and hold us back like a drug
we can't stop using.
ving said:
Anyhow, just a reflection on how the ebay phenomenon has changed that aspect of playing the saxophone--used to be fun to look at pieces and horns.
this one is a version of the psychobable game "things ain't what they used to be" which is ironically the same things mouthpieces are being acused of. this is clearly a form of "projection".
as a person that was a saxophone player pre-ebay. ebay has in fact changed things way for the better. Who new the world was so full of all this cool old stuff. the answer is "we didn't" we just used to have what existed in our own little local market and that was never alot.Also what happened is local price structures became global price structures. globalization economics of supply and demand 101.
what i think the Original poster is actually complaning about is lies and misrepresentation on ebay. marketing lies told about physical reality objects...
lies and misrepresentation are not in any way a new thing invented on ebay and are older that the stone tools used to make those moldy old mouthpieces.
first task is to stop looking and physical objects like they are "imaginary"
and look at them for what they really are and what you think they are really worth. Then advertising has no effect. Perhaps the entire psychobable cutlure thing is in and of itself an "addiction" to advertising.
we can call it a form of "narcasistic personality disorder" where we thing mouthpieces are being created by our imagination.
because physical mouthpieces today really are not what they once were but funky salesmen selling snake oil is a timeless thing.