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I have bought and sold several mouthpieces over the past month and EVERY SINGLE TIME I use USPS 2nd day air, the package stalls for several days and arrives several days late. What a waste of money. By contrast, every time I use UPS the package arrives on time and remarkably fast. I shipped a mouthpiece from Chicago to Wisconsin via UPS and I brought it to UPS at 4 pm and it arrived at the buyer’s address the very next day. Twice this month UPS has delivered packages out of state by the very next day. USPS would have promised the delivery in 3 days and actually taken 6 business days. I am so done with USPS.
 

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I am a big USPS fan. I mostly ship 1st class, no insurance. Usually $3-$4 for 1-4 mouthpieces in the box. Takes 3-5 days but is not guaranteed. I ship about 150-200 mouthpieces each year for the last 20 years. I have never had a mouthpiece permanently lost in the US.

I have had a few delayed for several weeks. But every one of them was eventually found and delivered other returned to me.

I have some clients who send mouthpieces to me for $20+. Save your $ so you can spend it on more sax stuff!
 

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I concur that USPS is a bit unreliable. Items are not generally lost, but they do take more time to be delivered. One may look at a UPS zone chart, and if the shipment is in a 2 day zone from the origin, items will be delivered in 2 days without any extra costs. I did have a shipment end up delivered in error one time, and UPS retrieved the item and delivered it upon retrieval. The USPS requires forms and investigations with no guarantee of outcomes. While I am not anti-USPS, I have found UPS more reliable. (The same is true for FedEX.)
 

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I am a big USPS fan. I mostly ship 1st class, no insurance. Usually $3-$4 for 1-4 mouthpieces in the box. Takes 3-5 days but is not guaranteed. I ship about 150-200 mouthpieces each year for the last 20 years. I have never had a mouthpiece permanently lost in the US.

I have had a few delayed for several weeks. But every one of them was eventually found and delivered other returned to me.

I have some clients who send mouthpieces to me for $20+. Save your $ so you can spend it on more sax stuff!
I am not saying they are permanently losing packages (although the Chicago post office did permanently lose an important package of mine about 6 years ago). Just that in the past several months, packages usually take at least twice as long to be delivered than the promised delivery date that I paid for. Paying the extra money for 2nd day air has been a disappointment almost every time. I guess I should have went with first class. It would have cost less than half as much and ended up having the same delivery time.
 

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Dunno if you saw my thread in the Shipping subforum:


I agree completely and I am GLAD there are two threads now....more of a chance for people to see the Beware sign.

I STILL have yet to receive one 3-day Priority package which was supposed to be here 8 days ago. The otehrs I mention in that thread alla rrived late - again, later than had they been sent Ground/Parcel.

And as I noted there ....the usps.com 'submit a search request' online form...was offline...between Sunday and Yesterday. They took it offline.

(Again, I reiterate as I have before...this is all the Endgame of a ridiculous piece of legislation passed in 2006: PAEA, which while it has a nice-sounding title, like most things which come out of DC, the actual bill does the opposite of what it is sounds like it'd do.
So, fast forward 14 years and we are seeing USPS in it's final throes...not due to ineptitude of its employees, but due to a law which was designed to destroy it as a public entity. This current (soon to be past) administration has done its role in that destruction as well.
Anyone may look it up.
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So, in the 'there's comfort in numbers' category...I am glad (not, but) I was not the only one having to deal with this BS.

Sorry to hear, honestly...it is darn stressful, isn't it ?
 

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Perhaps the president-elect will replace the postmaster general with someone who has better ideas on how to make the USPS work more efficiently. (A guy can hope anyway) ;)

First class mail used to be a day or two in-town, now it can take a week. Perhaps they are slowing first class mail to drive business to Priority Mail????????? Not an accusation, just a wild guess.
 

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Im with Mojo...just use first class. Priority is just an overpriced box. Priority mail travels in the same bags as first class. It might make it across the country one day faster...maybe not. First class is also tracked. Of course I dont live there anymore.

you can bet the incompetent creepmaster general will disappear. I can tell you that the foreign press did not treat him kindly.
 

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OK, but. Folks need to understand something here...and apologies if I am getting perilously close to a 'political' comment. I am referring to USPS here, which is still (for the time being) still a publicly funded, public service part of public infrastructure. So when one discusses USPS, one has to consider its 'boss' is the federal govt. I am not intending any partisanship to my comments when discussing.

The PAEA and subsequent dismantling of USPS...while begun by one party in '06, was absolutely not reversed (nor even mitigated) by the 'other' party during the 8 years of their occupancy of the WH. It could have been, particularly in their first couple of years....damage was already being done to it by 2008...

Sad to say, I doubt greatly this is a 'partisan' thing; more likely a private-sector lobbied 'change' which both parties have long agreed to pursuing.
I'd love to believe that USPS can be saved and repaired.
Again, I do not feel what we are seeing - while a surprise and disappointment and occasional outrage to us, the customers/citizens - is anything which lawmakers did not expect to happen.
 

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OK, but. Folks need to understand something here...and apologies if I am getting perilously close to a 'political' comment. I am referring to USPS here, which is still (for the time being) still a publicly funded, public service part of public infrastructure. So when one discusses USPS, one has to consider its 'boss' is the federal govt. I am not intending any partisanship to my comments when discussing.

The PAEA and subsequent dismantling of USPS...while begun by one party in '06, was absolutely not reversed (nor even mitigated) by the 'other' party during the 8 years of their occupancy of the WH. It could have been, particularly in their first couple of years....damage was already being done to it by 2008...

Sad to say, I doubt greatly this is a 'partisan' thing; more likely a private-sector lobbied 'change' which both parties have long agreed to pursuing.
I'd love to believe that USPS can be saved and repaired.
Again, I do not feel what we are seeing - while a surprise and disappointment and occasional outrage to us, the customers/citizens - is anything which lawmakers did not expect to happen.
Yeah I saw your original post and read it when it came up under new posts but I wasn’t able to find it to comment so I started this new thread. I didn’t realize there was a shipping sub forum. Learn something new every day, whether you like it or not.
 

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The sad thing is this: certain political groups support privatizing mail. The irony is that the areas of the country that support this party are the very people who will suffer if the mail system is privatized. The only reason a person in Countryville Kansas or BFE Montana can send an item to another area for an affordable rate is because the bulk of business that occurs in densely populated regions evens it out and USPS is MANDATED to provide equal service to those areas. It is basically a form of public service socialism.

Im going to suggest that for profit companies are not going to provide equal treatment for equal costs to Joe Corngrower.

its sad to see USPS like this. Prior to this year it has been one of the best state delivery systems on the planet. IMHO they should be restored and the silly rule of not funding them erased. An efficient and effective delivery system is critical to society.
 

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I ship a lot and am experiencing a few problems recently as well, both domestic and international. In some cases the new scanners they are using are crap and so packages move without getting updates. I've had things only show up at the time of delivery recently.
And as mentioned above, First Class is performing pretty well and is probably the best way to go currently when possible. Also, I recommend Pirateship.com , free , easy and good rates.
 

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Sad to say, I doubt greatly this is a 'partisan' thing; more likely a private-sector lobbied 'change' which both parties have long agreed to pursuing.
I'd love to believe that USPS can be saved and repaired.
Indeed we must not steer towards politics. But the traditional postal services of any country, where its USPS, Post Italia, Kazpost or Royal Mail maybe should have seen more writing on the wall back in the 90s when email took off replacing letters and postcards. In the 2000s Amazon soon dominated online shopping using its own courier network.

Plus the courier agent system (Interparcel etc.) meant it became easy for ebay sellers to get stuff picked up from home and sent cheaply instead of going to and queuing up the post office.

Bit of forward thinking would have helped all of these state run services.
 

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Last two USPS packages that I received:

First was UPS Mail Inovation'ed to the nearest city with no problem, then delivered by USPS to the wrong town. Eventually they figured it out on their own.

Second was priority mailed and reached the first distribution centre in a few hours. Then it apparently set there for 5 days until I opened a support case. It showed up two days later. USPS did send me an apology email.
 

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Let’s just say a very big company that begins with ”A” uses just about everything for shipping. In Los Angeles I see loaded warehouses like this selling lost, returns or unclaimed goods.
Every shipper has a percentage of loss.
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it's weird, but in the last 9 months, because of a new historical project, I have shipped a lot by USPS with only 2 issues, and they were with overseas shipping, and both were resolved. Domestically everything has gotten where it is supposed to get, with nary a glitch in sight. The good news is that we should soon have a new postmaster.
 

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Indeed we must not steer towards politics. But the traditional postal services of any country, where its USPS, Post Italia, Kazpost or Royal Mail maybe should have seen more writing on the wall back in the 90s when email took off replacing letters and postcards. In the 2000s Amazon soon dominated online shopping using its own courier network.

Plus the courier agent system (Interparcel etc.) meant it became easy for ebay sellers to get stuff picked up from home and sent cheaply instead of going to and queuing up the post office.

Bit of forward thinking would have helped all of these state run services.
Since you have experience with international shipping, perhaps you can tell me if there’s any hope of me ever receiving a Morgan Fry mouthpiece I ordered on October 24th from Intrada Music in Poland. On October 29th, the Polish post office tracking number said the package has left Poland and now, 23 days later there have been no updates. I read somewhere online that my package is most likely on a boat in the middle of the ocean headed towards the East coast. I suppose that’s the most likely explanation. Since Morgan Fry isn’t making mouthpieces anymore, Intrada Music was the only place I could find one of his Super Vintage pieces. I guess the best things in life are worth waiting for.
 

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I don't do a lot of shipping/receiving by mail, but over the past few years, mailing and receiving things like mpcs, CDs, books, various items from Amazon, and paying bills, etc, I've never once had any problems. With anything of real value (like a mpc) I always use first class with tracking. And it has worked great.

I can only hope the USPS stays operative (maybe it needs a few 'fixes') well into the future. If we lose it or 'privatize' it for whatever reason it will be a HUGE step backwards.
 

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I can only hope the USPS stays operative (maybe it needs a few 'fixes') well into the future. If we lose it or 'privatize' it for whatever reason it will be a HUGE step backwards.
Traditionally USPS has always invested in the best and current technology. The machine part is not broken. Going private would be disastrous. I produced years of direct advertising. Millions and millions worth. I can only remember one failure. Largely due to the customers choice of delivery. Third class during the holidays is not guaranteed on delivery.

For those interested here is history of USPS.
 
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