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i've been tootling along on my tenor for about a month to six weeks now.

at first, i was just really amazed at how easy it was to just whip up and down a scale and how great it sounded. but then, i started playing along to cd's - about a week ago - and my technique has taken a quantum leap! it's rather amazing at how quickly i progressed just from that.

now, i'm going to go to a jam session i set up. two bass players, a drummer and me. i'm a huge, massive ornette coleman fan, and by that i don't mean i'm obese.
 

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thanks...

also going to jam with some guys that have played the wangaratta jazz festival here - lotsa big names have appeared there - and i don't mind telling you i'm nervous. i figure i'll sink or swim so what the hell. what doesn't kill me etc etc yada yada

i've been playing tenor for four months.
 

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marton said:
thanks...

also going to jam with some guys that have played the wangaratta jazz festival here - lotsa big names have appeared there - and i don't mind telling you i'm nervous. i figure i'll sink or swim so what the hell. what doesn't kill me etc etc yada yada

i've been playing tenor for four months.
I suggest letting them know that Ornette is one of your influences--before you play.
 

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hakukani said:
I suggest letting them know that Ornette is one of your influences--before you play.
hahah.........they know. i was invited to play with these guys full-time in another *musical* lifetime, back when i played amplified violin.

i'm just gonna have fun with it.
 

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besides, ornette should be given the pulitzer. oh you mean he was given the pulitzer? how about that.
 

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All sorts of music written in the past 50 or so years has been given Pulitzers. No judgment there.

I don't think that, no matter your experience with other instruments that you're going to sound like much, including Ornette, maybe especially Ornette, after six weeks on the horn.

But by all means have fun.
 

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No, Hak, look again: he's been playing for 4 months. (post #3)

Or was it a month or six weeks? (post #1)
 

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yeah yeah

my point being that i'm there to learn. you guys are just so supportive. love ya.
 

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No offense meant, but this ain't psych on the web.;)

Sax players don't generally take kindly to cats who think they have the instrument mastered in a couple of months. Sorry.
 

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Wangaretta, that's in Australia, right?

If you're down there, give Bootman or Dogpants a shout. They're a bit more direct than an old Kansas boy.
 

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yeah whatever

look, fact is i've never said i've got it all covered. just because i'm enthusiastic and or confident doesn't mean a lot in terms of technique grasped.

fact is í haven't got it all covered and after thirty years of violin playing i'm well aware of how long it takes to just get proficient let alone claim mastery.

i'm excited about placing myself in situations that are going to stretch me. if you don't think that's a good idea then stiff, because i do.
 

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Sure man, no huhu.

Stretch, have fun, be excited. I'll support that, I suppose. I just thought I was supposed to be impressed at the same time. Can't do that.

I'm a big fan of playing for fun, it sure isn't much for profit. Blow with much testicularity.;)
 

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impressed? no you weren't supposed to be impressed. i'm posting a sort of journal of sorts here. thanks for the well wishes.
 

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No offense meant, but this ain't psych on the web.;)

Sax players don't generally take kindly to cats who think they have the instrument mastered in a couple of months. Sorry.

maybe you and other "cats" like you need to make sure about what's being said before you say anything.
 

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maybe you and other "cats" like you need to make sure about what's being said before you say anything.

Hey, it ain't me shootin' my typewriter hands off about it. Why don't you go back in time to another 'musical lifetime' and play violin with amplification. You seem to have been accepted with that.

Maybe you need to learn to be a little clearer about 'what's happening'.
 

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hey i'll tell ya. i don't care to conform to your grumpy old standards. if you don't like what i'm saying in a thread i started then that's like you know .. stiff.

i'm sure you have lots of friends you can go complain to.
 

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marton, you little monkey! It appears you've come a long way in a short time even if you aren't quite sure how short a time yourself. If this jam and its participants are real - and i think I have to assume they are - then I admire you for having the nerve to give this a shot. Talk of "grumpy old standards" got me wondering just what you were intending to play. Or are you just going to trust to enthusiasm and confidence?
 

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Whoa the f*** up there horsey!!!

Marton,

Fist things first, G'day and welcome and all that.

just to clear the air here, Hak wasn't really having a go at you....until you got stroppy and started carrying on like a big girl's blouse. He's not a Richardhead, he's a nice bloke, and even after you've had a go at him,he'll still offer you all the help in the world. Pull your head in.

Just a few tips, from one Aussie to another.

1. We are outnumbered on this forum by a zillion to one.

2. Most of the other people around here don't understand 50% of what we write. So it often happens, that people read things into a post that were not intended. Next thing you know, it's handbags at 10 paces.

3. Of the remaining 50% that do understand our language and colloquialisms, 45% of these find our humour incredibly offensive. The other 5% think were mad as a cut snake.

4. As an Aussie you are statistically 13.275 times more likely to be banned from this forum as omembers of other nationalities.

5. Most of the good horns and parts to keep them running, come from overseas. Many overseas sellers will only sell and ship locally. That's where having friends and contacts in the worldwide sax community pays a huge dividend. Making friendly with the Seppos and the Poms and the Krauts and the Frogs and the Dagoes, and the Spics and the Micks, etc, is just plain helpful. So try not to insult everyone, you never know when you'll need a friend. I'm proud to say I have friends in all the 3rd world countries I listed above. :D

6. The guys that play the Wangaratta Jazz festival are probably pretty decent players. Unless you spend big $$$ and get them all "smashed as a crab on a rock", you're gonna be in over your head. Big bollocks to you for having a go, but don't be upset at someone trying to offer a friendly warning. Just do the Aussie thing and have a laugh.

7. Don't listen to a word I've said. I'm probably not the best source of wisdom around here, on matters concerning forum behaviour.

Anyhow, welcome mate and do the right thing and drop Hak a PM.
 
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