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This months tune of the month is the lovely standard On Green Dolphin Street.

I chose this tune because it is a standard everyone should know through and through. It has been played by all the greats over the years, Sonny, Miles, you name em and they've probably recorded a version of On Green Dolphin Street. We did this tune 5 1/2 years ago but I feel like this one could use a revisit. I've played it a fair amount since we last did it but I realize I still have been playing it wrong. Little details here and there.

The song has 2 standard keys which people play it in. C and Eb. I thought it would be a good choice for this reason as well.

It's not an easy tune. Nor is it super difficult. Which is a reason it is often called at jam sessions. Nice chord changes and feel. With most people taking it at a rather medium tempo it can also be played super fast or a little bit slower.

Sonny Rollins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKxd7LoKs2M

Coltrane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePScRElDHOY

Miles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGVdAlxlp18

Randy Brecker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoy6b3Tibr4

Ella with Joe Pass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHHln37qXaI

This is the version I've been doing as a Duo with a percussionist. Krzysztof Urbanski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfRHUvt6Fuw

These are the files I've gathered to help out. For the Alto Chart in C we just have the real book there. It is on page 163 (thanks saxonabike). Also the PDF of the real book version for tenor (in Eb) was missing lines in the staff so it is almost unreadable. which is why I used the one in the link. If you have a good copy PM me.

https://app.box.com/s/ggfzu2m5gggx3afpczqh2omjyytzz6gg

Looking forward to a great month.
 

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Did this tune two times before.

Here is my May 2012 version (just remixed to a higher mp3 quality). Played on an 70's Early Babbitt 12 (solo at 0:50), a 50's Florida no USA 10* (solo at 3:02) and a Plasticover 2 reed. Chase choruses 4x4 start at 5:14 (EB first). The Florida sounds a bit richer in my ears.

1. - 'On Green Dolphin Street' (Early Babbit 12 - Florida no USA 10* - Plasticover 2):
https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11624065

And here a June 2016 recording on the Florida no USA 10* and a Plasticover 2 reed:

2. - 'On Green Dolphin Street' (Florida no USA 10* - Plasticover 2) 2016:
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13399383

Hope to record and post a new version later this month.
 

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Great tune guys! Thoroughly enjoyed the samples, very nice adaptation by littlewailer.

Early in my career I got a late call to cover the tenor part one night for a quartet I'd never played with, the piano guy was a Berkley grad & a monster soloist. They needed a sax guy to cover the heads and do light improv. I was holding my own until a veteran alto guy showed up & we got pulled into a deep improv session on this tune.... I got completely dusted!

For a long time afterward I was afraid of the tune. Only in recent years has it become one of my favorites!

Thanks for a great choice.
 

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Peter - There you go playing with yourself again! I liked the head with both tracks playing. Worked really well and you surprisingly played it perfectly in sync. The improv on that take was nice, a little wandering but you always resolve in the right spots. Your 2016 take had it's moments for sure. Little bits and phrases that made me chuckle. You're having a lot of fun playing. At times you're are very laid back that it seems the chords are moving faster than you're playing. Whether that's intentional or not I'm not sure. I'm not an absolute authority on the matter. I play funk for a living. :p Thanks for the takes. Maybe time to do a fresh one? Funky backing in the box.com link..... you know you wanna.
 

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Forum issues not letting me quote right now.

Peter - There you go playing with yourself again! I liked the head with both tracks playing. Worked really well and you surprisingly played it perfectly in sync. The improv on that take was nice, a little wandering but you always resolve in the right spots. Your 2016 take had it's moments for sure. Little bits and phrases that made me chuckle. You're having a lot of fun playing. At times you're are very laid back that it seems the chords are moving faster than you're playing. Whether that's intentional or not I'm not sure. I'm not an absolute authority on the matter. I play funk for a living. :p Thanks for the takes. Maybe time to do a fresh one? Funky backing in the box.com link..... you know you wanna.
Thanks for commenting Sean. :)

The laid back stuff is mostly intentional! I have listened a lot to tenor players in their late days (Cobb, Webster, Dexter, Jacquet) and love how they sometimes play (far) behind the beat. You could call me the >Aert de Gelder< of the tenor sax (Aert de Gelder was one of the last pupils of >Rembrandt< and did paint in the very rough style of the late great Rembrandt)!

I did record two jazz tunes with a funky backing last month, so I might try another one this month!
 

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Thanks to littlewailer for picking this tune. Like mrpeebee, I record a lot of things at home.
I had to look into my channel, I found a lot of things.

These are my renditions in 2013-2014 :

Tired

https://youtu.be/APT_k4hQkCU

Less tired

https://youtu.be/qkV4n6DDUE0

Playing without thinking

https://youtu.be/8marfyv43DE

Playing like an egg (out of tune)

https://youtu.be/tfYEWO2P354

Some renditions I had forgotten*:

https://youtu.be/dM_bX1O1d9U

https://youtu.be/AOjLYSWStwc


Reeds have really an incidence about sound and playing.
 

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Dr. Bob - Nice little ensemble there. Sounds like a fun gig. Lots of solos all around. Standard Bossa style is always nice.

Lionel - Someone's definitely done this tune a few times! I listened to a few versions. A bit hard to make comments directed when there's so many takes. You've obviously got a handle on the changes. Might be nice to see a new version to see how you've progressed since '13/14

Thanks guys.
 

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Here's my contribution ... let's call it :

On Black Orca Boulevard

Sloppy and rough .. not light and airy like Guido's, who's take I listened to just as I was uploading mine ..
I'll do proper comments later - great call Sean ! :mrgreen:
 

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Great tune, and as Little Wailer says, it should be part of every jazz musician's standard repertoire. I know I'm focusing on what I call "standard standards" at this point in my development, and this is on the "learn list". Guess it just got bumped up a little in priority :)

Recent additions to my repertoire include There Will Never Be Another You and Stella By Starlight.

I should have something up around the middle of the month as we slow down a bit for the holidays.
 

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Guido - Tackling the standard very well. You fill up all of the choruses quite well without repeating yourself too much. This has been my main issue. Your classic dark sound still present no matter about the horn. I played an Amati for about 5 years. They are great horns for the money.

Brendan - Quick and to the point. Sounded nice. There's a few spots where I notice myself not landing on the chord tones or not resolving properly in this tune. In the bridge right before the second A section is one. I picked that one out in your take as well in a spot. Strong sense of melody in your improv. Thanks!


I spent the last 2 days working on a recording. I'm being overly critical. I think I probably could have gotten one down by now but every little mistake or flubbed long note I've been killing the recording and going back to the start. Listening back though I can't hear the little things I did when doing the recording. Having the cans on really messes with my head. I've got my clip on and a zoom for getting some room sound. The recordings sound really good. Just not feeling it for whatever reason.
 

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PeeBee - listened to your 2012 take, and enjoyed a classic peebee number featuring long smooth runs punctuated with the trademark screams. :bluewink:
Lionel - checked out the less tired take ... loved the fast runs starting around the two minute mark. :mrgreen:
Dr Bob - cool harmonies in the head, you guys stayed latin right through the swing part - excellent. The solo was quite lyrical in parts. :bluewink:
Guido - like I said before, light and airy - a very pleasant listen. :mrgreen:
 

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I spent the last 2 days working on a recording. I'm being overly critical. I think I probably could have gotten one down by now but every little mistake or flubbed long note I've been killing the recording and going back to the start. Listening back though I can't hear the little things I did when doing the recording. Having the cans on really messes with my head. I've got my clip on and a zoom for getting some room sound. The recordings sound really good. Just not feeling it for whatever reason.
Bah .. just fire one out "peebee style" ... it's not like it's going on your debut CD !
(Which I would probably buy .. :mrgreen: :bluewink: )
 

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MrPeeBee: Peter I like both your records but I prefer the second one (2016), it starts relaxed but then scratches. :)

Lionel: what abundance ! I prefer the "without thinking" but we are looking forward for a new one.

DrBob: nice ensemble and nice solos.

Brendan: very nice your "walking" on theme and then on solo.

Littlewaller: beatiful rugged take, Sean ! a "red neck style" version: I like it. :)

Ciao.
 

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@ MrPeeBee pulling out the Lenny Pickett book of tricks from the older recording!!!! I prefer the first mouthpiece of the to but the difference I pretty minor. You were definitely chasing the ghost of Dexter with this track. At this point I’m trying to get locked deadcenter on the beat consistently before I start messing around with time feel.

@Lionel I only have time right now to listen to one of the recordings so I picked the “less tired” version miss what I listened to. I would have liked a little more motion at the top of the chorus. It was ice to see you putting a little bit of double time feel. That’s a real struggle for me at this point. The fingers are capable but the brain lags behind. Robust tone and a great listen!

@Dr Bob: Loved the collective embrace of the rhythmic by the group. The alto soloist was struggling some with the changes. But holding it together is what matters. During the solo section the soprano players tone was a bit shaky. It distracted from the otherwise good playing to me. Blue monk which started up right afterwards sounded much more polished.

@Guido you’re starting to really get a beautiful warm tone. Watch your intonation in a few spots. You’re using the full range of the horn. I think more practice time with this tune would make you more comfortable with the changes. Keep practicing and trying new ideas.


@Brendan nice to hear some Bari. I liked the overtone effect at the end :) Try studying the harmonic structure and using that to inform some note choices. When you a -7b5 (half diminished) followed by a dominant 7b9 you’re almost always going to resolve to the appropriate minor key. In that section if you know your harmonic minor scale you resolve to your home free. so B-7b5 to E7b9 to A-7 is all A harmonic minor.

@LittleWailer that sounds like the “smooth jazz” Spyro gyra bscking. I noticed a spot where you played a lick and then adapted going upwards on your horn. I’ve been working on that. I’m not a big flutter tongue fan but that’s okay :) I totally get that you have a flub and it takes you out of the moment. I struggle with that as well. Good work!
 

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Here's my take on this in 3/4 the Aebersold version off the Joey DeFrancesco album. https://app.box.com/s/gn97ooohla751wt2urgpkjjkaln2aogf

I recorded the Tenor very dry with as little reverb (if any) that Cubasis allows on the iPad version it's pretty negligible anyway.

I finally have a Short Shank Soloist again after messing around with a number of other pieces for the sake of cutting it in a Music Trade Show environment (think Shanghai trade shows and lots of smooth jazz/funk etc)

The Soloist is a Brian Powell reface to a 7* from an E original tip opening.

I'm going to look at doing the straight ahead version on Soprano when time permits but I might take a swerve on the funk version as much as I like it.

This track is 6.40 long so I don't expect anyone to make it to the end....I'm surprised I did and being a backing track it's always tricky working with the ebb and flow of the original recording to give the solo some context.

Anyway I gave it a shot.

Thanks for listening if you have time.

Alex
 
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