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I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm having a bit of a problem with my playing. I am having trouble tonguing sixteenth notes at speeds as low as quarter note = 100. I currently need to be able to tongue sixteenth notes at quarter note = 115 for a piece I am playing.

But before you give me a lecture about how I should start slow and gradually build up, I've been trying that, for about a month. It has gotten me nowhere, and if for some reason I don't practice for one day, my tonguing speed gets slower!

I have come to the conclusion that the cause of this problem must be either one of two things.
a) My tongue is incredibly slow; or
b) I am not tonguing in the correct manner

Does anyone have any tips on how to tongue properly, and how to do it fast?
 

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Off the top: Maybe try different consonants to get the right tonguing motion for you (eg "D" not "T")? Or maybe try a slightly harder reed? And, oh yeah, start slow and build up speed over a period of several decades (;) ). Seriously - use a metronome and don't proceed to faster tonguing until it's absolutely clean and clear at slower speeds. Consult with your teacher over what "clean and clear" is. All the best.
 

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hmmm... Next time you practice your tonguing, pay extra attention to exactly how your tongue is moving. You might be moving your tongue too far (greater distance to travel = slower tonguing speed) and you might be pushing the reed too hard; you only need to put enough pressure on the reed to make it stop vibrating (which is a very small amount). You don't need to push the reed shut.

In a nutshell, minimize the distance your tongue moves as much as possible.

It may also have something to do with what part of your tongue is touching what part of the reed. I find that touching just above the tip of my tongue to the very tip of the reed works best for me.

This is something that I have been working on a lot. If it turns out you have to change the way you tongue, you will absolutely *have* to slow it waaayyy down (I know i know...pain in the ***). Make sure you get the mechanics precisely correct at a slow speed then gradually build it up.

hope this helps.
 
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