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I've had my Soprano a few weeks now and it's sounding ok, but after playing for about an hour my lower lip is so painful that I have to leave it a few days before playing it again. I have been using Vandoren 2.5 with my SML mouthpiece, the Sax is 1920s vintage.
Also as it has no attachment for a neck strap the weight of the sax is supported by my thumb which also gets quite painful and indented.
Can anyone offer advice on these two problems please.
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Bruce is 100% right, but that's also one of the reasons how/why they can be difficult. I had a sop with no hook that I eventually had to sell because I was developing a tendon problem. The easiest fix is to have a curvy.

There are several modified thumb rests that can be purchased, although I have never tried one. A simple but effective help is to use a bit of thick wall plastic tube that fits over the thumb rest. If the right type (thickness and flexibility) it will soften the pressure and alleviate the indent problem.

Embouchure is another problem as the sop is definitely more difficult, especially if you are playing a "vintage" instrument and need to adjust for intonation problems. I'm not familiar with the SML mouthpiece, so don't know its shape. A thicker mouthpiece means that the sides of your lips need to close around and down further to seal the mouthpiece. This can be overly tiring and not even due to excessive playing. Thinner beaks are generally easier, but with time I think you can get used to almost anything. If you have a teacher or someone more experienced on sop around have them check it out to see if there are other mouthpiece problems that tire you by trying to compensate for something like a table that's not quite flat. Bruce and others would know a lot more about potential mouthpiece problems, but we would all just be guessing without someone trying/testing in some way.

Lots of words, probably not much help. Oh well, sending sympathy and best wishes.
 

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I bought a thumb brace that straps to my wrist when I had tendonitus in my thumb. These are low-cost and really helped support the horn. Make sure you get the one that has the metal support under the thumb.......

The more permanent fix was to squeeze a "squishy" hand exercise ball with my thumb in the direction of the support needed when playing. After a few months the tendonitus went away and the thumb muscles got strong.

As for the sore lip, assuming you are not biting, there is an easy solution. I have taken the $1 football mouth guards and cut out a small piece, about 3/8" square. Dip it in hot water for 60 seconds and then mash it over your lower front teeth. This keeps rough teeth from digging into your lip, and works great.
 

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Lots of great comments above. But I'm guessing you could just be a bit nervous of dropping the soprano while playing, and in turn used your lips for supporting its weight. Stress tension builds up when you're nervous and your fingers, arms and lips will tense up and use much more energy than needed, causing fatigue quickly.

Also don't just support your horn on your right thumb - use left thumb too. Lift the horn at the left thumb rest against your upper teeth. To do so your horn cannot be held vertical like a clarinet, but 30-45 degree tilted down from hornizontal.

For stress tension part (if it applies to you) it takes time to develop confidence. It took me about a year. It kinda depends on how much you treasure your soprano setup :bluewink:

Just my 2 cents...I hope this helps a little bit...
 

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I know it's not a popular idea with many, but I can't fathom the idea of using a soprano without a neck strap; the strap can take a fair bit of the weight even with a straight soprano. If it wouldn't ruin the value of the soprano, I'd vote for having a strap ring soldered onto the horn. You're looking at long-term problems with your thumb by supporting too much weight on it, including (but not limited to) problems with the CMC joint (the joint back near the wrist.)

May have already been mentioned, but moving from tenor to soprano is quite a jump; having played mostly alto, developing the embouchure was not easy. It'll likely take some time, even if you work at it steadily. Find out how long you can play without the resulting lip pain, and work from there. 15 to 30 minutes a day will get you further on the instrument than an hour every 3 days.
 

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Lip pain: Practise more... You'll gradually build up a callus on the inside of your lip! It will hurt at first!

Thumb:
For soprano, I think you need to have a strap. Plus, it is important to play the soprano pointing out (as people previously said). The mouthpiece should enter the mouth at the same angle as the alto/tenor/baritone saxophones.

A product that I absolutely swear by, but others aren't so keen for, is Ton Kooiman's FORZA Thumb Rest. If you ever change to a soprano with a modern adjustable thumb rest, then you really should have a look at the Forza. It TOTALLY eliminated all of my right hand pain. I focus only on soprano.

Good luck!
 

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For lip pain (1) don't bite. (2) use a shield over the bottom teeth. Take a cigarette rolling paper, fold it into a small square about the size of your thumb-nail, and fold it in half over your botom teeth. Let it set there and soak for a minute. Then it should stay in place when you play and will keep the bottom teeth from cutting into your lip.
 
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