I love Phil, but I don't don't think this is him at his best. He's incredibly sharp compared the the quartet.
This is incredible
Phil Woods and the Capitol Quartet. The entire quartet is just wonderful, but Phil sounds incredible here. I'd reccommend checking out the rest of their videos too, just wonderful!
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Meh, I love Phil Woods, but I dont liek sax quartets too much, too cheezy. I don't know what you are talking about Phil woods being sharp, but the soprano player couldn't play in tune to save his life. But check out the video of Phil that shows up in the sidebar, playing "Undecided" with Quincy in '59, pretty tasty stuff.
I agree he is very sharp, but I've always tuned my ear to his sharpness. I love his style, and I think it makes up for his tone =]. I still think the entire quartet sounds phenomenal.
Who knows. I don't have perfect pitch. Maybe the quartet is flat.
Haha, and maybe the earth is pentagonal!
That would be a dodecahedron.
I just can't listen to this ... So sharp! I prefer a bit flat than a bit sharp. here is too much for my ears.
I think you have to listen wider than the tuning here. If that's the "veto" criteria then you have to rule out Jackie Mac, Stitt, Lou Donaldson-even some Cannon & Bird. Phil phrases perfectly and the sound 'makes sense' and is beautiful. Most jazz alto players, including many greats, veer towards the sharp rather than the flat-it's almost part of the language
It's like when a band plays a great swinging tune and then a conversation starts about whether the band 'sped up' or not-who cares, within reason, it sounded great.
Jamie
It's like when a band plays a great swinging tune and then a conversation starts about whether the band 'sped up' or not-who cares, within reason, it sounded great.
Jamie
This is indeed troublesome to listen... Had to jump to something that would relax my ears...
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That bass player is awesome!
That bass player is awesome!
Concerning Phil Wood on this video, I just wanted to say that it would have been perfect if he had pull his mouthpiece a bit! But my brain can't correct at this level of out-tuning
I still like it =]
I have to agree with the haters. With this recording I was not impressed. It hurt my ears.
But how do your guys feel about Jackie McLean? He played sharp and sounded like a genius every time.
I think that when you spend a lot of time listening to one player then your ears do become accustomed to things like odd tuning. I used to find Jackie difficult (and Dexter for that matter) but I think I must have found a way over 20 years of hearing a kind of contextual-in-tuneness about it. Jackie on a ballad sounded wonderful.
By the way, that's Marty Nau on soprano who's also a fantastic alto player from Washington-one of the best straight ahead players around.
Jamie
I think that when you spend a lot of time listening to one player then your ears do become accustomed to things like odd tuning. I used to find Jackie difficult (and Dexter for that matter) but I think I must have found a way over 20 years of hearing a kind of contextual-in-tuneness about it. Jackie on a ballad sounded wonderful.
By the way, that's Marty Nau on soprano who's also a fantastic alto player from Washington-one of the best straight ahead players around.
Jamie
That horn has a Z neck but the bell ring look like a mark vi to me.
Looking past the sharpness - very impressive. Hopefully I'll be able to play one or two of those licks by the time I'm 70 or so.
Never could get past Jackie playing way sharp most of the time. I'm a big fan of playing in tune as that must be why were have ears.jamiejazz said:But how do your guys feel about Jackie McLean? He played sharp and sounded like a genius every time.
I think that when you spend a lot of time listening to one player then your ears do become accustomed to things like odd tuning. I used to find Jackie difficult (and Dexter for that matter) but I think I must have found a way over 20 years of hearing a kind of contextual-in-tuneness about it. Jackie on a ballad sounded wonderful.
By the way, that's Marty Nau on soprano who's also a fantastic alto player from Washington-one of the best straight ahead players around.
Jamie
Everyone likes good tuning-but what about adults in western countries who decide to get into indian music. They decide to acclimatize themselves to it's particular tuning and it becomes natural to them. Maybe listening to Jackie or others involves something similar and it's so fantastic that it's worth staying with it.
Indian classical musicians rarely play out of tune. Sharp is sharp, and flat is flat no matter the intonation system.jamiejazz said:Everyone likes good tuning-but what about adults in western countries who decide to get into indian music. They decide to acclimatize themselves to it's particular tuning and it becomes natural to them. Maybe listening to Jackie or others involves something similar and it's so fantastic that it's worth staying with it.
I went to a Ravi Shankar concert some years ago and watched him berate his student, who was playing Tamboura, that his instrument was out of tune. He worked with him until he got it right.
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