[soybean]

Make sure you have a reliable alarm clock!

NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR FIGHTING COVID VIRUS:

"On September 8, the Turkish Interior Ministry issued a notice to the public regarding new COVID restrictions/guidance. Violators will be issued fines. The new restrictions are as follows:

• Face masks must be worn in public (e.g., streets, gardens, workplaces, etc.) at all times in all 81 provinces of Turkey.
• Standing passengers will not be allowed in urban public transportation vehicles where physical distance rules cannot be applied.
• The playing of live music at restaurants and cafes after midnight is forbidden"

How in the heck can live music after midnight be more dangerous than music played at 10pm?

 

[Arundo Donax]

...
How in the heck can live music after midnight be more dangerous than music played at 10pm?

Someone tossing a saucepan at you?

 

[Hassles]

the Cops are on over-time so there is less of them? ? ?

 

[JimD]

Fortunately I don’t have any gigs lined up in Turkey. But at least you can play until midnight. You can’t play anywhere here.

 

[lesacks]

I've found that, often, evening activities in places around the med starts much later than in more northerly countries.

 

[click]

Foolish dangerous intoxicated infected and dim witted folk stay up late, and must be forcibly protected from themselves as well as protecting the general population, which, while mostly asleep for two hours at least, might have an occasion to bump into them every now and then. Should have been 10 o'clock. Plus which vampires and werewolves, etc.

[Seriously, I note that these are "new" restrictions. Do the old restrictions include increasing the space between patrons listening to the music indoors? Are the venues allowed to be standing room only, while the buses and trams are not?]

 

[Sacks Of Phones]

How in the heck can live music after midnight be more dangerous than music played at 10pm?

According to J.J. Cale, "stuff" happens after midnight.

 

[buddy lee]

Good, I don't want to be out that late anymore anyway.

 

[tony51]

It begins to tell
'Round midnight, midnight
I do pretty well, till after sundown
Suppertime I'm feelin' sad
But it really gets bad
'Round midnight

 

[soybean]

Haha. That’s it!

 

[Guto]

10pm is still supper time. The dancing, hugging and kissing ramps up after midnight.

 

[Grumps]

Fortunately I don't have any gigs lined up in Turkey. But at least you can play until midnight.

If you can do so with a mask.

 

[Pete Thomas]

It's like taking work or travelling in any other country, you accept their laws or don't go there. No point in complaining that they have didderent laws to your own country.

If I go the the US, I drive on the right hand side of the road and don't complain. If I drive on the left and have a crash, it's my fault. No argument.

Why argue, it doesn't get you anywhere. My son in law was arrested in NY for drinking beer underage. He accepted it and did not try to say the law was stupid and wrong (luckily for him)

 

[soybean]

Pete, I agree with you and I didn't mean to sound complaining. Actually, I thought this would amuse people. I find it funny. It is nice that they are allowing live music at all.

As someone who spent a month in Turkey, I know that the phrase "It is forbidden" is taken very seriously.

 

[Pete Thomas]

Pete, I agree with you and I didn't mean to sound complaining. Actually, I thought this would amuse people. I find it funny. It is nice that they are allowing live music at.

Yes, reading again you are right, it does have its funny side!

Sorry I took it a bit seriously

 

[14470]

Make sure you have a reliable alarm clock!

NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR FIGHTING COVID VIRUS:

"On September 8, the Turkish Interior Ministry issued a notice to the public regarding new COVID restrictions/guidance. Violators will be issued fines. The new restrictions are as follows:

• Face masks must be worn in public (e.g., streets, gardens, workplaces, etc.) at all times in all 81 provinces of Turkey.
• Standing passengers will not be allowed in urban public transportation vehicles where physical distance rules cannot be applied.
• The playing of live music at restaurants and cafes after midnight is forbidden"

How in the heck can live music after midnight be more dangerous than music played at 10pm?

At least this would suggest that they have some live music left, which is more than can be said for most other places on this God-forsaken planet.

 

[whaler]

Pete, I agree with you and I didn't mean to sound complaining. Actually, I thought this would amuse people. I find it funny. It is nice that they are allowing live music at all.

As someone who spent a month in Turkey, I know that the phrase "It is forbidden" is taken very seriously.

Yeah, I saw Midnight Express.
Here the bars just extended the hours to 11pm close. I have a gig on October 9th that goes to 12 so I guess they see it's going to change again.
The CDC must have found out Covid' s work schedule.

 

[Q chan]

"Masks must be worn at all times ..."

 

[Bloo Dog]

Pete, I agree with you and I didn't mean to sound complaining. Actually, I thought this would amuse people. I find it funny. It is nice that they are allowing live music at all.

As someone who spent a month in Turkey, I know that the phrase "It is forbidden" is taken very seriously.

I realize that this was started as a joke, but it could give some folks ideas about gigging internationally. There's a whole lot more to working in a foreign country than hopping on a plane, then going to places in search of work. The Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs' website [ http://www.mfa.gov.tr/general-information-about-turkish-visas.en.mfa ] outlines the various types of visas, but that's just the beginning. Even if you arrive with the proper visa, things can change quickly. You may find that a particular law is strictly enforced in one municipality but ignored in another. Laws aren't evenly codified in every country.

One should do his homework. For example, Turkey is 98% Muslim. What are the chances that you'll find places openly serving liquor, much less featuring western music? I worked in China for many years. I saw a LOT of people arrive on a tourist visa seeking work. Some employers hired them and retained them via tourist visa extensions (really illegal and not recommended). Some were required to reapply for an F business license every three months. They weren't allowed to obtain a residency permit which was renewable every year, and they could engage in business activity but not draw a paycheck from a Chinese employer. Many weren't caught doing this. Many were. Some arrived on a perfectly legal work visa and went to work for their contracted employer. When they took work outside of their employer's contract, things often got rough. Even then, that varied from province to province because each province (in some ways) acts as a separate, autonomous country. (This is changing).

My cousin worked in Turkey for almost ten years. She left the country two years ago amid increasingly tense political turmoil. Turkey is not a good place for westerners these days.

Before one looks for work in a foreign country, he should research its laws and customs and keep abreast of news from that country.

**I now return you to your regularly scheduled program++

 

[soybean]

"Masks must be worn at all times ..."

Does that actually work? I mean, can you perform with those two masks?