Well, this turned into yet another contentious circus. I'm out.
If you can, listen to CP on the Dave Douglas album The Infinite. On the up tempo pieces CPs rhythmic concept is unbelievable to hear. Sophisticated and complex but always serving the music. And he takes massive risks. Only a sax player will know what that means. But you'll hear it immediately.
I can't see the Gideon Tazelaar here (maybe with a vpn?)Ok, it's just the video has to be listened to on YouTube, not the player here. That intro was exactly the concept I'm thinking about. This guy is interesting! Also no keyboard or guitar, that makes a difference.
The two others do have a very Sonny sound, which has nothing to do with the rhythm, but they're both good, too. I guess, what I would be looking for would be outside of the standards kind of thing Sonny recorded. There must be a way to play a standard arranged so it doesn't sound like bebop or post bop? I know it's been done, just as Miles played pop songs like Time After Time in his own way.
In my own view, someone like Kenny Garrett does with melody and harmony what Sonny did with rhythm. I suppose words don't really make it easy, I'll know it when I hear it. I haven't listened to much Chris Potter, enough to know he's a brilliant player, but not much more.
Perfect. A friend sent me this a few weeks ago and my reply was, "He's certainly studied his Sonny Rollins." It's possible to incorporate elements of Sonny's sound and style, but not his overall unique improvisational genius. And then there's the Afro-Caribbean influence in his playing, which would be hard to recreate authentically.Tivon Pennicott.