[craisycraze]

I'm trying to get a good jazz mouthpiece for alto and i've came across the meyer hr and the vandoren v16. Just recently i found out about the new selmer super session series. So what is your opinion on the mouthpiece?? How is the tone like? and the brightness? and the range? and overal ability?

And should i get a vandoren optimum lig or a rovner mark3 lig to go with it?

 

[Stretch]

I'm a little confused about the terminology "new" Super Sessions. They have been on the market for a few years and I have a couple SS alto pieces which are my main alto pieces. They are not bright, less cut than Meyer type pieces, but they blow very easy with a full sound (good quality rubber) and are very consistent from the few that I have tried. I use traditional Selmer ligs on all my saxophones.

 

[craisycraze]

what do you mean by"less cut"

 

[Dave Dolson]

My experience with the Super Session for alto matches that of Stretch. When I play my SS-F, it gives me warmth, ease of play, and good intonation.

I would describe it as spread, whereas my favorite Meyer alto piece (6S-M) gives me more resistance, more focus, less spread. I bounce back and forth between the two, much depending on the acoustics in the room I'm playing.

I use the SS-F on all of my altos (vintage to Ref54). An SS-E came with my Ref 54 but I didn't care for it. The F worked much better for me. DAVE

 

[bruce bailey]

I started using Selmers for alto in 1964. In 1966 a short shank D and in 1980 an S-80 D. About 2 years ago I went to a Super Session D and it is perfect. Works well on any of the 18 or so Altos I have. I was also using a Meyer 6M for big band but now with the SS-D I can do it all. Look around here at SOTW and you may pick up a good one cheap. Even new, they are not too high. I can't go up to an F but it should be tried. I still get the S-80 out but on soprano the super session wins by a long shot. Bottom line for me is Selmer on Sop and alto and Brilhart or Link on Tenor and Bari.

 

[AirForceSax]

I really like the Super Session E that I play on alto. It's got a nice tone for all-around jazz playing, I like for everything from big band to bop to more modern music. I also like the Jody Jazz HR* mouthpieces, I haven't tried one on alto but love my 7* on tenor and 6* on soprano. I find they have a bit darker tone than the SS but are not too dissimilar. For more contemporary playing, without a lot of cash outlay, I've really been happy with my Brilhart Levelaire 7 as it has a nice medium bright tone(with baffle in) and blows really nicely. I tried many other mouthpieces, but these are the ones that really work well for me.

Happy Thanksgiving

 

[Phil Barone]

I'm trying to get a good jazz mouthpiece for alto and i've came across the meyer hr and the vandoren v16. Just recently i found out about the new selmer super session series. So what is your opinion on the mouthpiece?? How is the tone like? and the brightness? and the range? and overal ability?

And should i get a vandoren optimum lig or a rovner mark3 lig to go with it?

Just do what your favorite players do, on alto it's Meyers. That's really how simple it is.

Phil

 

[ving]

I have one of these for sale in the marketplace section for a very fair price...


ving

 

[Sigmund451]

18 Altos Bruce....your scarin me!

 

[guido]

Just do what your favorite players do, on alto it's Meyers. That's really how simple it is.

Phil

If you want to sound like your favorite player and your favorite player uses a Meyer, I guess this makes sense.

But, if you are looking for your own sound the Meyer is the last thing I'd recommend.

guido

 

[hakukani]

If you want to sound like your favorite player and your favorite player uses a Meyer, I guess this makes sense.

But, if you are looking for your own sound the Meyer is the last thing I'd recommend.

guido

I use the same mouthpiece and reeds as my favorite player. How come I still don't sound like him?

 

[Phil Barone]

If you want to sound like your favorite player and your favorite player uses a Meyer, I guess this makes sense.

But, if you are looking for your own sound the Meyer is the last thing I'd recommend.

guido

No way, historically speaking players that used round chamber mouthpieces had their own sound. Why would you say this? Phil

 

[jmm1713]

But, if you are looking for your own sound the Meyer is the last thing I'd recommend.

guido

Aggreed ... . I have one because I like the large tip opening (10) but If your looking for an alto mouthpiece There are better choices .

 

[Sebastian]

I kinda think that a person would be hard pressed to prove (by naming players) that it's easier to get your own sound on a guardala than a meyer. To my ears, the high baffle vibe doesn't lend itself to more than a couple of styles of music, esp on alto.

 

[Martinman]

If you want to sound like your favorite player and your favorite player uses a Meyer, I guess this makes sense.

But, if you are looking for your own sound the Meyer is the last thing I'd recommend.

guido

Cannonball and Phil Woods (and many others) have their own completely different sounds and they both used Meyers.

 

[Phil Barone]

Cannonball and Phil Woods (and many others) have their own completely different sounds and they both used Meyers.

Yeah, and I've heard some really great players in NYC like Lawrence Feldman sound almost as funky as david Sanborn on a Meyer. I believe in round chambers and the ability of having a better chance of sounding unique on them. It's not so much that they can make you sound unique, it's more that they don't get in they way like a high baffle piece. I make both but my favorite pieces are the ones with round chambers. Ya know that Adolph sax said that the mouthpiece should have a round cavity? Phil

 

[whaler]

The Meyer on alto, metal Link on tenor, and for me, Selmer metal on soprano seem to work the best for every type of playing. High baffle mouthpieces just don't sound as "rich" to my ears and concept. It seems with a high baffle you are putting a square peg in a round hole so to speak. They sound like all the vibration is in the mouthpiece and not the horn.

 

[Phil Barone]

The Meyer on alto, metal Link on tenor, and for me, Selmer metal on soprano seem to work the best for every type of playing. High baffle mouthpieces just don't sound as "rich" to my ears and concept. It seems with a high baffle you are putting a square peg in a round hole so to speak. They sound like all the vibration is in the mouthpiece and not the horn.

Yeah, that's a good way to go. Maybe one day look at my Hollwood on tenor, has more volume and is easier to blow. My NY on alto is a lot like a Meyer with a lower baffle for fatter high notes. Phil

 

[dstack79]

I think another good alternative to a Meyer is the Vandoren V16 rubber. Really big warm sound w/ punch and edge.

-Dan

 

[SaxJazz12]

The Meyer on alto, metal Link on tenor, and for me, Selmer metal on soprano seem to work the best for every type of playing. High baffle mouthpieces just don't sound as "rich" to my ears and concept. It seems with a high baffle you are putting a square peg in a round hole so to speak. They sound like all the vibration is in the mouthpiece and not the horn.

What do you think of Ralph Morgan mouthpieces...specifically the excalibur models (just curious because you seem to know your s**t)