[Paul Cohen]

All welcome a new type of saxophone: The Eppelsheim C Khylbass
It's a C bass saxophone in a tubax format. It is designed to be played with an alto saxophone mouthpiece!
In the video below, Michael Cappbianca, one of my Rutgers students, is demonstrating the Khylbass in its first public hearing . This is one of three made. I received it last week.
Paul Cohen

[video]https://www.facebook.com/paul.cohen.3386/videos/10158266580544993/[/video]

 

[Rackety Sax]

Wow that's really wild... sounds good!

 

[Bari Sax Guy]

Nice, thanks, how is it possible to play a big guy such as this with an Alto mouthpiece? Enquiring minds want to know.

 

[lostcircuits]

Nice!!!! that's just crazy stuff but I love it!

 

[Paul Cohen]

Nice, thanks, how is it possible to play a big guy such as this with an Alto mouthpiece? Enquiring minds want to know.

It's a miracle! Another element of Eppelsheim's genius of acoustic design.
Paul Cohen

 

[soybean]

Love, love, love it!

 

[kreacher]

That's great, now I can really save money by using it with a Yamaha 4C.

 

[mmichel]

Nice, thanks, how is it possible to play a big guy such as this with an Alto mouthpiece? Enquiring minds want to know.

My guess is that, due to the narrower cone of the tubax-style bore, the missing cone simply has a smaller volume. Consider, for example, the miniscule volume of a bassoon "mouthpiece".

 

[rhysonsax]

That's brilliant and I want one. Do you know why it is called a "Kyhlbass" ?

The sound is amazing, especially considering the mouthpiece. I would have expected the sound to be lacking in body, carrying power and volume. In the flesh are there any obvious differences compared with the sound of a conventional bass sax ?

Rhys

 

[Paul Cohen]

That's brilliant and I want one. Do you know why it is called a "Kyhlbass" ?

The sound is amazing, especially considering the mouthpiece. I would have expected the sound to be lacking in body, carrying power and volume. In the flesh are there any obvious differences compared with the sound of a conventional bass sax ?

The Kyhlbass has a completely different sound signature then a conventional Bb bass. It's narrower tonal compass and singing upper register makes it suitable for mixed instrumentation, perhaps taking the role of a bassoon, cello, or bass.
Paul Cohen

 

[GaSax]

Really like the sound of it! Any links to more info on it or more videos of it being played? Thanks.

 

[milandro]

All welcome a new type of saxophone: The Eppelsheim C Khylbass
It's a C bass saxophone in a tubax format. It is designed to be played with an alto saxophone mouthpiece!
In the video below, Michael Cappbianca, one of my Rutgers students, is demonstrating the Khylbass in its first public hearing . This is one of three made. I received it last week.
Paul Cohen

[video]https://www.facebook.com/paul.cohen.3386/videos/10158266580544993/[/video]

Very nice, I see that you were able, after all, to place this, although not in the Eppelsheim section which probably would have been more to the point https://forum.saxontheweb.net/forumd...227-Eppelsheim.

It certainly looks very nice and sounds even better. Being of a compact design will make this horn very "popular" although I suppose the price will be in line with all these special horns made by Eppelsheim?

$15-20K?

Equally the lead time for this won't be a short one, I would expect several months?

Benedikt Eppelsheim is one of the few true innovators in the woodwinds world and really the only one who came up with instruments based on a different concept than Sax himself had conceived.

In all probability this too, like all tubaxes, starts cylindrical close to the mouthpiece and then gets conical? ( Which has lead some people to say that tubaxes aren't " saxophones" whatever that means). I met Mr. Eppelsheim several times in Frankfurt and briefly tried his instruments.

Are you sure by the way that the Surnam is Cappbianca ( Being Italian born I know that this surname must have been originally spelled Capabianca = Whitehead in several southerns dialects but with moving to the US surnames were often changed and misspelled)

 

[vries1]

That's brilliant and I want one. Do you know why it is called a "Kyhlbass" ?

The sound is amazing, especially considering the mouthpiece. I would have expected the sound to be lacking in body, carrying power and volume. In the flesh are there any obvious differences compared with the sound of a conventional bass sax ?

The Kyhlbass has a completely different sound signature then a conventional Bb bass. It's narrower tonal compass and singing upper register makes it suitable for mixed instrumentation, perhaps taking the role of a bassoon, cello, or bass.
Paul Cohen

https://www.museodelsaxofono.com/20...o-saxofono-realizzato-da-benedikt-eppelsheim/ has the answer:

"Questo strumento è stato realizzato da Benedikt Eppelsheim (sponsor del nostro Museo) per il celebre saxofonista danese Christian Kyhl recentemente scomparso."

 

[milandro]

So it is called Kyhl bass in honor of Christian Kyhl which probably commissioned this instrument first? This is what I gather from the Italian text, Cheers Dirk!

 

[Paul Cohen]

Very nice, I see that you were able, after all, to place this, although not in the Eppelsheim section which probably would have been more to the point https://forum.saxontheweb.net/forumd...227-Eppelsheim.

It certainly looks very nice and sounds even better. Being of a compact design will make this horn very "popular" although I suppose the price will be in line with all these special horns made by Eppelsheim?

$15-20K?

Equally the lead time for this won't be a short one, I would expect several months?)

Thanks for the comments. I placed this as a new post, which is exactly to the point and where I wanted it to be placed. Yes, the cost is similar to that of a Tubax. It took Eppelsheim 15 months to create two new Kyhlbasses, both special order/requests. Since these are not in production, it is doubtful they could be produced more quickly.

There will be more video clips available soon!
Paul Cohen

 

[milandro]

perhaps I didn’t explain myself well, this is posted in mixed saxophone discussion (which is not wrong) but it would have equally been a new post even if posted in Eppelsheim section.

The forum has several dedicated subfora to known and notable makers and Eppelsheim has his own dedicated forum with several threads, you didn’t need to continue one you could have started a new one there, but again, this is not wrong.

 

[Paul Cohen]

So it is called Kyhl bass in honor of Christian Kyhl which probably commissioned this instrument first? This is what I gather from the Italian text, Cheers Dirk!

Yes, this is correct. The first one was made for Christian Kyhl around 2007. In November of 2018, a colleague and myself saw the prototype high on a shelf at Eppelsheim's shop, took it off the shelf (with permission!) and were amazed and dazzled at the sound, design, and uniqueness of all aspects of the instrument. We prevailed on Benedict to make one for each of us, and 15 months later are delighted with the instrument.

Paul Cohen

 

[milandro]

Well 15 months wait is not a bad lead time for something like this.

These days Yanagisawa lead time for a lot of products is 6 to 9 months

 

[Paul Cohen]

perhaps I didn't explain myself well, this is posted in mixed saxophone discussion (which is not wrong) but it would have equally been a new post even if posted in Eppelsheim section.

The forum has several dedicated subfora to known and notable makers and Eppelsheim has his own dedicated forum with several threads, you didn't need to continue one you could have started a new one there, but again, this is not wrong.

Thank you for reminding me again that my post is not wrong. I placed the post exactly where and as I wanted it placed. I think I mentioned that in an early answer. Will you remind me again how my post is not wrong but not placed where others suggest?

Paul Cohen

 

[milandro]

I was just trying to inform you as I did when I directed you to how to post a new thread