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Has anybody ever heard of the cecilio clarinets? and if any of you guys have, can you guys tell me the pros and cons about it?
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I have 2 clarinets sitting in front of me.gary said:
I asked one of them to reply
neither of them are doing anything ...
what am I doing wrong ??
(this is silly, it's 2am .. i'm going to bed)
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I don't know but something is obviously not right. Mine always answer....stevesklar said:
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From the looks it is yet another of those Far East instruments. I don't say they are all good or all bad; obviously a lot depends on how much effort was put into the finish. Then again, a $120 instrument (from Amazon, for example) can't have a lot of time put in its finish, given the long food chain behind such imports.fuzzywuzzy said:
If I had a $120 budget, I'd probably buy a Bundy or a Vito for 20$ and have it "done" for another $100.
(before everyone jumps at me - I know that a good overhaul probably costs more, but for putting it into operable conditions, $100 would be at least a start. Clarinuts are selling those clunkers for $150 up and I guess they still make a modest profit)
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Cecilio is one of the least expensive of the Chinese brand instruments that have recently flooded the market. At $79.00 new on E Bay, a Cecilio clarinet costs about 1/10 as much as a reputable, well made, student model clarinet such as a Vito or Yamaha. Do the math to compare the basic quality and value.
I have only seen one of the Cecilio clarinets and two of the Cecilio saxes come to our shop. Other than tightening a pivot screw or putting a spring back on we generally decline working on this quality of instrument because we cannot warranty our repairs due to the poor quality of the materials, and to properly repair the instrument far exceeds its value in most cases.
If you hate your local band teacher, send your kid to band with a Cecilio clarinet and have him try to get your student to play in tune with the others in the clarinet section. If you really hate him have the kid use the mouthpiece that came with the instrument. :twisted:
My advice is to get a used Vito, Yamaha, or Bundy in good condition and have a good shop go through it. A Vandoren 5RV, B45, or Fobes Debut mouthpiece is a good addition although the plastic Yamaha 4C is not a bad beginner's mouthpiece.
John
I have only seen one of the Cecilio clarinets and two of the Cecilio saxes come to our shop. Other than tightening a pivot screw or putting a spring back on we generally decline working on this quality of instrument because we cannot warranty our repairs due to the poor quality of the materials, and to properly repair the instrument far exceeds its value in most cases.
If you hate your local band teacher, send your kid to band with a Cecilio clarinet and have him try to get your student to play in tune with the others in the clarinet section. If you really hate him have the kid use the mouthpiece that came with the instrument. :twisted:
My advice is to get a used Vito, Yamaha, or Bundy in good condition and have a good shop go through it. A Vandoren 5RV, B45, or Fobes Debut mouthpiece is a good addition although the plastic Yamaha 4C is not a bad beginner's mouthpiece.
John
I did buy one of the cecilio clarinets for my daughter that started in band this year, I only wanted to spend a small amount cause I didn't know if she would want to stay with the instrument or no. The band teacher said it had good sound and I haven't had any problems with it but my daughter is very respectful of it also and doesn't make stupid mistakes like standing it up on end. I have also owned two bundy student clarinets that I have had reconditioned from one of my other children and they haven't held up as well.
My daughter that is playing the cecilio is thinking of moving onto a bass clarinet now. I also have bought some cecilio cellos that have held up very well, I figure when the children are done abusing them I will give them away to someone else, in the meantime I'm not in the poor house.
My daughter that is playing the cecilio is thinking of moving onto a bass clarinet now. I also have bought some cecilio cellos that have held up very well, I figure when the children are done abusing them I will give them away to someone else, in the meantime I'm not in the poor house.
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Sorry "mom29" but I have seen and played a cecelio clarinet and saxophone, and they are without a doubt the two worst excuses for musical instruments I have ever attempted to play. A good way to be absolutely certain your student will NOT stay with an instrument is to start them out with a bad instrument, while something decent will at least have resale value.
I am glad you were not my mother. Done correctly, music can be a lifetime hobby for someone. Done the way you seem to think is the right way, it will be something that the kids feel obligated to do for a couple of years, never to be touched again.
I am glad you were not my mother. Done correctly, music can be a lifetime hobby for someone. Done the way you seem to think is the right way, it will be something that the kids feel obligated to do for a couple of years, never to be touched again.
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I'm with you on this one DS.
The ones I've seen are at best 'clarinet shaped objects'. The quality of workmanship is poor, and intonation.....Pitchy as a Pine tree.
If I can't make one play in tune, there's no way a beginner can.
The ones I've seen are at best 'clarinet shaped objects'. The quality of workmanship is poor, and intonation.....Pitchy as a Pine tree.
If I can't make one play in tune, there's no way a beginner can.
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They make excellent lamps when you add wire, a light socket, a light bulb and a electrical plug. They will last forever in this configuration.
As a clarinet, they are slightly better than an oboe, but not much better. They have a playing life of six months before things start to go horribly wrong. They are some of the smallest bore clarinets I have ever seen. They are plastic, keys included. At $80.00, these are overpriced by$79.95.
If you are desperate for a clarinet and money is tight, save yourself the aggravation of buying one of these things and go cut down a tree and build your own. You can't make a clarinet worse than these.
As a clarinet, they are slightly better than an oboe, but not much better. They have a playing life of six months before things start to go horribly wrong. They are some of the smallest bore clarinets I have ever seen. They are plastic, keys included. At $80.00, these are overpriced by$79.95.
If you are desperate for a clarinet and money is tight, save yourself the aggravation of buying one of these things and go cut down a tree and build your own. You can't make a clarinet worse than these.
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A Cecilio anything is bad. You get what you pay for.
See, "The Low Bid" by John Ruskin.
See, "The Low Bid" by John Ruskin.
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+1 to what the others said above.
They are similar to the largo clarinets.
Ask Dogpants about his adventure in trying to fix one
for one of his students
For about 1.5 times what you paid for the ceilio you could have got a
good condition B12, ycl250 or similar model.
Any of these will last and stand up to more abuse than any throw away instrument and parts are available if needed.
They are similar to the largo clarinets.
Ask Dogpants about his adventure in trying to fix one
for one of his students
For about 1.5 times what you paid for the ceilio you could have got a
good condition B12, ycl250 or similar model.
Any of these will last and stand up to more abuse than any throw away instrument and parts are available if needed.
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Same can be said for the men most girls choose.
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