[rucadulu]

BurningAmbulance.com Published this list back in September 2012.

I think this list is crazy BS.

Where did they come up with some of these names? Kaoru Abe, never heard of him.

Why are four great saxophone players not on the list (Rudolph "Rudy" Cornelius Wiedoeft, Homer Louis "Boots" Randolph III, and Kenneth Bruce Gorelick "Kenny G") these three always seem to be neglected. Why would they leave Clarence Clemons off the list, this is truly baffling. I do not believe they put any of the great rock saxophonist on the list.

Well post your thoughts I am curious to know if anyone else see's a problem with this list.

50. KAORU ABE.
49. STEVE LACY.
48. JOSHUA REDMAN.
47. KEN VANDERMARK.
46. MATANA ROBERTS.
45. TIM BERNE.
44. DEWEY REDMAN.
43. JOHNNY GRIFFIN
42. IKE QUEBEC
41. JEMEEL MOONDOC
40. JOHN GILMORE
39. JACKIE McLEAN
38. HANK MOBLEY
37. BRANFORD MARSALIS
36. DAVID MURRAY
35. MATS GUSTAFSSON
34. JOE McPHEE
33. FRANK WRIGHT
32. NOAH HOWARD
31. JULIUS HEMPHILL
30. HENRY THREADGILL
29. BEN WEBSTER
28. LESTER YOUNG
27. STAN GETZ
26. DON DIETRICH/JIM SAUTER
25. CHARLES GAYLE
24. LOU DONALDSON
23. JD ALLEN
22. CANNONBALL ADDERLEY
21. ARCHIE SHEPP
20. PHAROAH SANDERS
19. JOHN ZORN
18. CHARLIE ROUSE
17. ERIC DOLPHY
16. MARION BROWN
15. JOSEPH JARMAN/ROSCOE MITCHELL
14. COLEMAN HAWKINS
13. FRED ANDERSON
12. WAYNE SHORTER
11. DAVID S. WARE
10. JOE HENDERSON
9. DEXTER GORDON
8. ALBERT AYLER
7. SAM RIVERS
6. ANTHONY BRAXTON
5. PETER BRÖTZMANN
4. ORNETTE COLEMAN
3. CHARLIE PARKER
2. JOHN COLTRANE
1. SONNY ROLLINS



Source:

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/10/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-50-41/

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/11/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-40-31/

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/12/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-30-21/

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/13/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-20-11/

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/14/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-10-1/

 

[John Laughter]

I have a 93 page list of just about all the great Rock & Roll & R&B sax players and the Billboard Top 40 hits they played solos on from 1955-2013 if you would like the list. Just send a PM with you email address and I will send it to you.

 

[jaysne]

Phil Woods

 

[jaysne]

Including people you've never heard of is their way of making it seem like they know something you don't know, which is designed to give them some credibility.

 

[ericdano]

A list without Michael Brecker in the top 5 is not a list.

He's not even listed. ***

BurningAmbulance.com Published this list back in September 2012.

I think this list is crazy BS.

Where did they come up with some of these names? Kaoru Abe, never heard of him.

Why are four great saxophone players not on the list (Rudolph "Rudy" Cornelius Wiedoeft, Homer Louis "Boots" Randolph III, and Kenneth Bruce Gorelick "Kenny G") these three always seem to be neglected. Why would they leave Clarence Clemons off the list, this is truly baffling. I do not believe they put any of the great rock saxophonist on the list.

Well post your thoughts I am curious to know if anyone else see's a problem with this list.

50. KAORU ABE.
49. STEVE LACY.
48. JOSHUA REDMAN.
47. KEN VANDERMARK.
46. MATANA ROBERTS.
45. TIM BERNE.
44. DEWEY REDMAN.
43. JOHNNY GRIFFIN
42. IKE QUEBEC
41. JEMEEL MOONDOC
40. JOHN GILMORE
39. JACKIE McLEAN
38. HANK MOBLEY
37. BRANFORD MARSALIS
36. DAVID MURRAY
35. MATS GUSTAFSSON
34. JOE McPHEE
33. FRANK WRIGHT
32. NOAH HOWARD
31. JULIUS HEMPHILL
30. HENRY THREADGILL
29. BEN WEBSTER
28. LESTER YOUNG
27. STAN GETZ
26. DON DIETRICH/JIM SAUTER
25. CHARLES GAYLE
24. LOU DONALDSON
23. JD ALLEN
22. CANNONBALL ADDERLEY
21. ARCHIE SHEPP
20. PHAROAH SANDERS
19. JOHN ZORN
18. CHARLIE ROUSE
17. ERIC DOLPHY
16. MARION BROWN
15. JOSEPH JARMAN/ROSCOE MITCHELL
14. COLEMAN HAWKINS
13. FRED ANDERSON
12. WAYNE SHORTER
11. DAVID S. WARE
10. JOE HENDERSON
9. DEXTER GORDON
8. ALBERT AYLER
7. SAM RIVERS
6. ANTHONY BRAXTON
5. PETER BRÖTZMANN
4. ORNETTE COLEMAN
3. CHARLIE PARKER
2. JOHN COLTRANE
1. SONNY ROLLINS



Source:

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/10/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-50-41/

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/11/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-40-31/

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/12/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-30-21/

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/13/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-20-11/

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/14/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-10-1/

 

[LostConn]

A list without Michael Brecker in the top 5 is not a list.

He's not even listed. ***

Paul Desmond is another outrageous omission.

Also, I can't stand it when what's essentially a list of jazz players purports to be a list of all players.

 

[SaxTon]

Commercially successful players e.g., Kenny G and Boots to a much lesser extent, do not make them necessary eligible for this "greatest saxophonists ever" list IMO which is impossible to compile without many differing opinions as we all know.

However, if you are going beyond Jazz players then Rudy Wiedoft (mentioned in a previous post) surely belongs as well as Sigurd Rascher, etc. in addition to some very obvious omissions in the jazz players listed.

 

[tinpalaceroach]

I understand it but if you follow BurningAmbulance.com they are more geared toward the modern Avant Garde or Free Jazz/ Improvised type genre. so yeah I get it especially number: 50,49,47,46,45,44,41,40,36,35,34,33,3,31,30,26,25,21,20,19,17,16,15,13,12,11,8,7,6,5,4,3,2, and one can argue that #1 also falls in that category since he influenced them all. so this is there favorite greatest saxophonists ever not yours. get a grip.

 

[Phil1]

BurningAmbulance.com Published this list back in September 2012.

I think this list is crazy BS.

Where did they come up with some of these names? Kaoru Abe, never heard of him.

Why are four great saxophone players not on the list (Rudolph "Rudy" Cornelius Wiedoeft, Homer Louis "Boots" Randolph III, and Kenneth Bruce Gorelick "Kenny G") these three always seem to be neglected. Why would they leave Clarence Clemons off the list, this is truly baffling. I do not believe they put any of the great rock saxophonist on the list.

Well post your thoughts I am curious to know if anyone else see's a problem with this list.

50. KAORU ABE.
49. STEVE LACY.
48. JOSHUA REDMAN.
47. KEN VANDERMARK.
46. MATANA ROBERTS.
45. TIM BERNE.
44. DEWEY REDMAN.
43. JOHNNY GRIFFIN
42. IKE QUEBEC
41. JEMEEL MOONDOC
40. JOHN GILMORE
39. JACKIE McLEAN
38. HANK MOBLEY
37. BRANFORD MARSALIS
36. DAVID MURRAY
35. MATS GUSTAFSSON
34. JOE McPHEE
33. FRANK WRIGHT
32. NOAH HOWARD
31. JULIUS HEMPHILL
30. HENRY THREADGILL
29. BEN WEBSTER
28. LESTER YOUNG
27. STAN GETZ
26. DON DIETRICH/JIM SAUTER
25. CHARLES GAYLE
24. LOU DONALDSON
23. JD ALLEN
22. CANNONBALL ADDERLEY
21. ARCHIE SHEPP
20. PHAROAH SANDERS
19. JOHN ZORN
18. CHARLIE ROUSE
17. ERIC DOLPHY
16. MARION BROWN
15. JOSEPH JARMAN/ROSCOE MITCHELL
14. COLEMAN HAWKINS
13. FRED ANDERSON
12. WAYNE SHORTER
11. DAVID S. WARE
10. JOE HENDERSON
9. DEXTER GORDON
8. ALBERT AYLER
7. SAM RIVERS
6. ANTHONY BRAXTON
5. PETER BRÖTZMANN
4. ORNETTE COLEMAN
3. CHARLIE PARKER
2. JOHN COLTRANE
1. SONNY ROLLINS



Source:

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/10/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-50-41/

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/11/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-40-31/

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/12/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-30-21/

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/13/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-20-11/

http://burningambulance.com/2012/09/14/the-50-greatest-saxophonists-ever-10-1/

I have a big problem with this list. Rather than say who should not be on there I will say who should.

Stanley Turrentine

David Fathead Newman

Junior Walker

Earl Bostic

Sonny Stitt

Zoot Simms

Frank Lowe.

Azar Lawrence

I'll add some more later.

 

[LostConn]

so this is there favorite greatest saxophonists ever not yours. get a grip.

Er, the entire purpose of publishing a list like this is to provoke readers and create arguments (and clicks, of course). If people didn't become upset about the choices, the list would be an utter failure.

 

[SaxTon]

I welcome the discourse and enjoy being upset. A great way to take a break after intensive practicing for a couple of gigs this Valentine's weekend. And yes I do have a grip and like to learn from the community. But I must admit I do not follow burningambulance.com

However, if the list is limited to only 50 to cover such a large range of players - those past and those still very much on the scene -
then we can never come close to agreement. But I will not take seriously any list that had Kenny G listed as one of the "greatest players ever"
But we all have our own opinions. That's what makes this forum fun to follow

 

[Saxland]

Johnny Hodges is not there either. Or Frank Morgan. No Sidney Bechet either.

 

[Tom Walsh]

No Brecker on a list of greatest sax players....

there's no particularly recent players either. No Mark Turner, Chris Potter

They completely neglect the east coast/third stream school aswell. No Zoot, no Desmond, Art Pepper or Al Cohn.


Safe to say the is "their list"

 

[Jazzaferri]

It's a ridiculous list on an even more ridiculous quest.

We could discuss the definition of greatest for a whole lot of pages and still not be on the same page

 

[Phil1]

No Brecker on a list of greatest sax players....

there's no particularly recent players either. No Mark Turner, Chris Potter

They completely neglect the east coast/third stream school aswell. No Zoot, no Desmond, Art Pepper or Al Cohn.


Safe to say the is "their list"

In my biased opinion Michael Brecker was the among the best of the modern players and to not have him on there is absurd.

 

[Sax in the hat]

No Brecker on a list of greatest sax players....

there's no particularly recent players either. No Mark Turner, Chris Potter

They completely neglect the east coast/third stream school aswell. No Zoot, no Desmond, Art Pepper or Al Cohn.


Safe to say the is "their list"

Well, Joshua Redman is on there, but otherwise I agree.

Gerry Mulligan another glaring West Coast/ cool jazz omission.


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[backtothesax]

Just like what is usually understood about viewing of art - the beauty is in our eyes; this also have bearing on listening to jazz-saxophonists - what is regarded excellent is in the ears of the listener - not in subjectively presented top lists. So there is no idea being upset, comment or challenge the list makers.

 

[Balanced action man]

Thanks for the link.
Just been checking out Burningambulance. Very interesting website. Great interview with Chris Potter about his latest album for anyone who wants some younger modern contemporary players. (showing my age perhaps, but not really in the context of this list.) Also, very cool Best of 2014 lists. A few obvious choices, but some very interesting picks, and an introduction to quite a few players/bands I hadn't heard of before, which I always find exciting. I can't listen to Rudy Wiedoeft and KennyG EVERY DAY for the rest of my life Great selection of old and new, traditional and experimental/contemporary groups.

I consider there to be a number of young/contemporary players on this list considering it's a pick of 50 players over a century! How many working sax players are there in Manhattan today? 5000+ or something isn't it!! Great to see Matana Roberts here. She is a seriously dedicated player with a lot to say and an amazing voice. http://cstrecords.com/matana-roberts/ Check out CoinCoin and The Chicago Project with Von Freeman. Actually, I'm not surprised anyone is not on this list, given the incredibly varied amount of incredible saxophone players that have graced us, but considering the compiler's penchant for the more avant-garde players Von Freeman is an interesting omission.

I didn't come here to write about who's not on the list though. If you don't agree, write your own damn list.
Everyone's will be different. That's why I play and love music.

 

[Balanced action man]

OK
I'm not going to suggest this player should be in the list, (he's in mine) but he seems to live in the same realm as these players (to my ears).
I can't give you my list, because it changes from day to day.

 

[warp x]

lists....yuck