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A friend has played Alto for a number of years on a Meyer 6 with a 3 reed and wants to know what a comparable tenor tip opening would be advised
 

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My guess would be a 7 or 7*. My preferred reeds are the D'Addario Jazz Select 2 Hard or, depending on the MPC, the Rigotti Gold. Keep in mind that it is the combination of things not the individual component that makes it a working solution.
 

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I am in agreement with lostcircuits above. A 6 on alto and a 7* on tenor are fairly middle to the road when it comes to tip opening ranges.
 

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You have asked an interesting questions and the responses are that you should go from “middle of the road” to “middle of the road”

Consider, however, that an Meyer 6 Alto tip opening is the same as a Meyer 5 Tenor tip opening (about .076). Given that you will need a looser embouchure on the tenor, you might want to consider not increasing your tip opening (with a 7 or 7*), but rather to maintain your tip opening with a 5. (The larger the tip opening, the more difficult it is to maintain a loose embouchure....)
 

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Since the tenor reed is longer and wider, and the mouthpiece window is also (usually) longer, it doesn't make sense to use the same exact tip opening - it too should be a little larger on tenor than on alto, to give a similar blowing experience. However, I would recommend a 6* on tenor rather than a 7*. I know that 7* is "the standard" on tenor, and that's what I play on most mouthpieces too, but it's noticeably more open feeling than my 6 alto piece. For me, to get the same "feeling" on tenor I would use a 6*. (The fact that I don't want the same feeling is irrelevant!)
 

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You have asked an interesting questions and the responses are that you should go from “middle of the road” to “middle of the road”

Consider, however, that an Meyer 6 Alto tip opening is the same as a Meyer 5 Tenor tip opening (about .076). Given that you will need a looser embouchure on the tenor, you might want to consider not increasing your tip opening (with a 7 or 7*), but rather to maintain your tip opening with a 5. (The larger the tip opening, the more difficult it is to maintain a loose embouchure....)
And what would you recommend for someone who plays a .056” on sop?
 

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Bjroosevelt;3781590(The larger the tip opening said:
I don’t agree with this statement. Maintaining a loose embouchure depends on the embouchure muscles, not the reed or tip opening.
 

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Uh, the numbers are relative to the size of the horn in question. So a 6 opening on alto would be akin to a.... wait for it... 6 opening on tenor.
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I’m not so sure.
I play a 10 on Tenor with 2.5 reeds but I wouldn’t have a chance at blowing a 10 on Alto.
I use a 6-6* at best on alto also with 2.5 reeds.
But I like a 7 on Soprano.
Interestingly I asked a similar question regarding tenor and soprano openings.
Many seemed to like a considerably smaller or more closed tip on soprano VS tenor, comparatively speaking.
 

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I’m not so sure.
I play a 10 on Tenor with 2.5 reeds but I wouldn’t have a chance at blowing a 10 on Alto.
I use a 6-6* at best on alto also with 2.5 reeds.
But I like a 7 on Soprano.
Interestingly I asked a similar question regarding tenor and soprano openings.
Many seemed to like a considerably smaller or more closed tip on soprano VS tenor, comparatively speaking.
I agree, there is no need to assume you use the (relative) same size alto/tenor.

Plus, unless you are discussing the same make/model mouthpiece across the different size instruments it's less meaningful anyway as tip size is only relevant when the facing curve is also part of the equation.

So I use 5 on soprano, 6** on alto 9* (or 11) on tenor and 7 on baritone (all with 2.5 or 2.25)

There is no equation or pattern involved.

However attempting to answer this question:

A friend has played Alto for a number of years on a Meyer 6 with a 3 reed and wants to know what a comparable tenor tip opening would be advised
You might say (for jazz) then the traditional "typical" might be Meyer 6 on alto and 7* plus on Link like tenor.

But then again you might not, especially for other genres.
 
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