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So ive been playing tenor for about 4 years now and i want to get a better mouth piece. I'm curently playing a yamaha 5c with vandoren 3 1/2 and sometimes java red of the same strenght . i currently use a yts 23 '90. I play both jazz and classical and i heard that the jumbo jave t75 would be good. Since i always played on a 5c, i wanted to know if that would be a hard upgrade or it would be pretty easy to get use to, if to hard what should i go with?
 

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In the articles tab, in the FAQ tab, in the "more" tab, is a big list of many suggestions to check out.

Well worth reading, if you are interested in getting a lot of differing opinions.

https://forum.saxontheweb.net/conte...or-New-Members-and-Frequently-Asked-Questions

Mouthpiece Suggestions to replace current Tenor mouthpiece:

Sound clips and comparisons: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=81124
Bright sound: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=956
For Jazz: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=3047
Lead Tenor: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=6328
For College: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=5801
Big, dark , edgy: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=9703
Classical: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=7294
To Cut through: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=7483
Great Metal pieces: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=8907
Upgrade: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=110774
Smooth Ballads: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=12109
Big, round, good subtone: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=10708
Big, Fat, wide sound: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=11471
Darkest sounding: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=15320
Edgy: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=17523
Jody Jazz vs Phil Barone: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=20887
Full Bottom, Easy Altissimo: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=30819
Under .100 opening: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=28577
Dark, Bright, Cutting, Warm and Funky: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=30098
Versatility: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=41233
Full Fat in the Palm Keys: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=58633
All round Hard Rubber: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=51474
Rock/Funk/Blues: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=47826
Legit: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=52062
Cutting and Great Altissimo: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=50285
Great Metal Jazz: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=63111
Controllable Power and Brightness: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=64600
Like a Sugal: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=44528
For Beginners: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=73253
Fusion: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=89190
Cheap Step-up jazz: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=104178
Florida Links: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=102222
Modern Sounding under $300: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=108022
Caravan and Rascher: http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=101784
 

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The Vandoren Java t45 or t55 might be a good choice.Its a versatile piece that plays great right out of the box.
 

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Sorry for the late reply! I went with a v16 t7 and i play java reds 3 1/2. Now im looking to upgrade my 5c liguature.
 

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Now im looking to upgrade my 5c liguature.
Does it fit well on the new mpc? If so, you're all set. My suggestion is to not waste your time trying to 'upgrade' a lig if the one you have fits properly and doesn't slip when you adjust the mpc on the cork.

And what I just said will likely open a big can 'o worms on the 'effect' of ligatures, etc. Don't get all wrapped up in that either.
 

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If you want to upgrade get a better mouthpiece. Im not saying its needed....But like JL says. Dont waste your money on high dollar ligs. Any sonic improvement you observe will likely be in your head...not from the bell. High dollar ligs are hyped and make such a small difference. Sax forums are good at helping you empty your wallet. Trust me...I make pieces for a living and I sell expensive ligs as well....but that doesnt mean I think a really nice lig will offer an equal sonic reward. Practice takes time but its free. The concept of time=money is mostly a consumer culture ploy.
 

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Have a T75. Was my first Jazzy mouthpiece, and is the current one I play.

4 thoughts to consider.

1). It has a medium long facing and a pretty good sized chamber, so it is going to play on the flat side compared to your current mpc. I have to push it in on my Mark VII all the way. (I originally purchased it for my Conn Shooting Star) which tends to play sharp for me. It is well centered on the shooting star. T-35 has a smaller tip, but it might be a better chamber size for your current horn.

2). You will need to soften up your reed. I use a 2 1/2 strength reed on it and it is plenty stiff to crank up to Altissimo. 3 1/2 is definitely outside of the recommended stiffness range.

3). T75 a nice mouthpieces that does not take an exceptional amount of air and has a good Jazz sound. I can center the tone very well. Pianissimo is definitely easier on this mpc than fortissimo.....it can go loud, but if you are looking for super loud or super-free blowing, try the D’Addario D8M....blows the T75 away - but the sound isn’t as well centered and pianissimo isn’t so good. D8M will probably have a better chamber size for your current horn.

4). It is going to take you a month to get used to the new mouthpiece.....even if you just spend most of your time trying to figure out the best reed for it. Don’t make the change close to a performance.
 

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...You will need to soften up your reed. I use a 2 1/2 strength reed on it and it is plenty stiff to crank up to Altissimo. 3 1/2 is definitely outside of the recommended stiffness range.
+1. I had the same thought also, not so much because of the mpc (I'm not familiar with the T75), but because a 3.5 reed is definitely on the stiff side. I know some players prefer a very hard reed, and I don't know how experienced you are, Ludomic, but I wonder if you're aware you are using such a hard reed and why? Try something in the medium range like a 2.5 as Bjroosevelt suggests. You might be surprised at how much livelier your tone is, once your chops adjust to it.

p.s. Unlike a fancy lig, the reed can make a huge difference!
 

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While most mere mortals play ~ 2.5 strength on open pieces, myself included, some don't. I've read that Grover Washington Jr. plays very hard reeds on very open pieces. I wouldn't be able to get a sound out of his setup, but it obviously works for him. So if 3.5 works for you, then stick with it. But if you frequently pass out or your face feels like it's going to fall off after 15 minutes of playing, you'll know why.
 

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So if 3.5 works for you, then stick with it.
Yes, very true. Of course "IF it works for you" is the key phrase here. And the OP has been playing sax for only 4 years. It seems like a lot of relatively inexperienced players and high school kids (not saying Ludomic is in high school; I wouldn't know) are attracted to really hard reeds and I have to wonder why. I can play a hard reed (3.5), but prefer not to because the sound is too 'dead' for my taste (and I'm not Grover Washington!). We're all different but since Ludomic is trying to upgrade I'm suggesting one upgrade might be a more medium strength reed. There are many top pros who play reeds in the #2.5-3 range.
 
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