[Raccoon1400]

I'm going to step away from thinking about gear for a moment and ask about this here.

Technique wise, what could help me get a fatter sound?

I'l still mention I'm currently playing a Yamaha '62 with a 90's metal link.

 

[click]

Here is a tone production link

https://forum.saxontheweb.net/showt...ised-for-2013-Happy-New-Year-from-Phil-Barone

another

https://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?137868-Tone-production-for-Tenor
"#2 way to improve tone is doing overtones

#1 way is to aurally transcribe ballads by the great players you mention above. No need to write them down.
Sit down with your tenor & your iPod. Put on Stanley Turrentine's version of "Willow Weep for Me" (for instance), and try to imitate what you hear.

This may sound simplistic.
It's indeed *simple*, but it's actually quite deep.
You'll NEVER regret investing your practice time in this way.

best of luck!
~Rick"

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more

https://tamingthesaxophone.com/saxophone-tone-sound

https://tamingthesaxophone.com/improve-your-tone

There is also a whole section of Saxothweb
https://forum.saxontheweb.net/forumdisplay.php?61-Tone-Producing-amp-Embouchure

Perhaps one or more of these notions will suit.

 

[GHawk]

I think of embouchure as equal pressure from around the mouth. Biting is the culprit that makes the sound "pinched". Develop the corners of your embouchure...think "Oooo". Once you develop those muscles you will play more relaxed. Play a reed that's comfortable, too. A reed that's too hard or too soft can make your embouchure go in the wrong direction.

 

[buddy lee]

I'm going to step away from thinking about gear for a moment and ask about this here.

Technique wise, what could help me get a fatter sound?

I'l still mention I'm currently playing a Yamaha '62 with a 90's metal link.

Answering your question with questions of my own:

1. How long have you been playing?
2. Are you sure your horn is in 100% playing order?
3. 90's metal Link... what size tip opening, and what make of reed + strength?

The vast majority of tone work is done by a strong, supported air stream and a relaxed (yet firm) embouchure. Remember, sound is produced by the reed vibrating a column of air that resonates inside the saxophone's cone... you want the reed to vibrate as freely as possible to get that fat tone you covet.

 

[click]

Can you get a tutor?

There is nothing like a person right there to get a solid basis for improvement.

 

[Raccoon1400]

Answering your question with questions of my own:

1. How long have you been playing?
2. Are you sure your horn is in 100% playing order?
3. 90's metal Link... what size tip opening, and what make of reed + strength?

I've played on a couple different horns and mouthpieces. I feel like maybe I end up with a similar sound after I get used to something new. But some things are always easier with certain gear. The link is the best altissimo piece I've tried.

The vast majority of tone work is done by a strong, supported air stream and a relaxed (yet firm) embouchure. Remember, sound is produced by the reed vibrating a column of air that resonates inside the saxophone's cone... you want the reed to vibrate as freely as possible to get that fat tone you covet.

I've been playing about 16 years.
I keep the horn in good order.
The link is a 7* and I'm using a #3 rico royal reed. I find harder reeds give a thicker sound but then they are too hard.

Can you get a tutor?

There is nothing like a person right there to get a solid basis for improvement.

Yeah, there's a teacher I could go see. I took a lesson last year when I was trying to get better at overtones, altissimo, etc. I could go back. I just thought I'd see what people here would say. I took lessons throughout middle school/high school too but that was a while ago now.

I like your suggestions in the first post.

I don't think there are any real problems with my tone at the moment, I just always feel like I'd like to sound a bit fatter.

Here's a random jam from a few months ago. I think I was playing the SML gold medal with the link. The Yamaha '62 is a little fuller I think, at least with the current setup. The SML had the thicker sound when I was playing the Eric Falcon Warburton LA with too hard a reed.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FG4X2iezs4RfEMe2K2yOdq5F3IOnIsnk/view?usp=sharing

 

[laurjohn]

For me it's about opening the back of the throat; imagine you have a ping-pong ball in the back of your mouth. You can also experiment with the shape of the tongue while playing.

 

[Reet McVouty]

I'm going to step away from thinking about gear for a moment and ask about this here.

Technique wise, what could help me get a fatter sound?

I'l still mention I'm currently playing a Yamaha '62 with a 90's metal link.

Seriously? The first and only question I need answered is. What is a thicker, fatter sound? Tell me a player you would really like to sound like. Then, I'm going to suggest that you put on his music and play along with him and try to sound as much like him as you can. That's the fastest way to get there, along with getting the proper set up.

 

[lostcircuits]

Seriously? The first and only question I need answered is. What is a thicker, fatter sound? Tell me a player you would really like to sound like. Then, I'm going to suggest that you put on his music and play along with him and try to sound as much like him as you can. That's the fastest way to get there, along with getting the proper set up.

Exactly and watch it on YouTube so that you can see the posture and facial of the player and try to imitate that, too, that is, the way he/she holds the horn, the amount of pressure on the cheeks/throat, all of that is relatively easy to money see, monkey do and will probably give you the fastest track

 

[Raccoon1400]

Seriously? The first and only question I need answered is. What is a thicker, fatter sound? Tell me a player you would really like to sound like. Then, I'm going to suggest that you put on his music and play along with him and try to sound as much like him as you can. That's the fastest way to get there, along with getting the proper set up.

There isn't really anyone I'm trying to emulate. Sometimes I play jazz then sometimes I'm doing a rock or blues solo. I like a nice thick, coarse growl sometimes.

I don't think I have too much to complain about tone wise just trying to get an idea on how to get some more control. There's a couple good things to try in here so far.

 

[pontius]

tune sharp and blow flat

 

[Dr G]

Practice outdoors and learn to fill space.

 

[jgreiner]

Practice outdoors and learn to fill space.

Space........the final frontier. ;-)

 

[Dr G]

Space........the final frontier. ;-)

Time.

 

[Raccoon1400]

This growl is pretty nice. Sweet lick. (not a fan of the song though) Just trying to emulate it and I'm having some success. Humming coarser and slower results in a thicker coarser growl.