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Thanks, ManEast :) Alas (for me), or maybe luckily, I found the post I should have remembered (because I had read it!), and I'm feeling really stupid now after reading it again - because my sax is definitely a T-500, and the information necessary was available on SotW all along; linked by yours truely in the very thread I reopened without need. I'm dumbfounded about my lack of sensibility. Simply put: You were right on all counts.

That said: I too would still love to see a real T-800!

M.
Hi M

I am not surprised by the amount of confusion over this, considering some of the info put into print on this subject. (dates on model runs) This kind of stuff also has a habit of repeating itself... as one tends to read it and then repeat it in print else were, i.e Internet forums ext. Logic also has a bit to do with it too... the 900 with 990, the 901 with 991. So the 800 must be the intermediate to the 880 (no its not ! :~)
Even the term Student sax used in the wrong way can lead players to believe that one particular model (in this case the A and T 500) is somehow inferior to a T6 or T900...when they are not. Yanagisawa needed to Twin its range to compete with the very popular Yamaha YTS/YAS 62 & 32. The 32 being yamaha's Intermediate (not student) model.
The funny thing is the T & A 500 were so competitively price, that they prob did more to put the Yanagisawa name out-there , than any other horn built by them.
The A & T500 evolved from the A & T6 ... if you hold them up together this is very easy to see. ( also T6 ends in 1979 T500 starts late 79/80 :~)
Yanagisawa make 50 of the 600's (this is were the rumours of the Selmer lawsuit kick in.)

By the late 70's. Yangisawa have already started thinking of other great horns borrow from and focus on the King Super 20. That's were you get the short lived A & T 800, swiftly followed by the A & T 880.

The MK6 copy thing was in much of the Yani range inc the A & T500. As a player I have found that some pre 901 & 991 Yani horns suffer with some of the same probs the MK6 has. Some seem to speak very well at the bottom...and some not. (regardless of how well they are set up).
I am a yani fan and love the pride of workmanship built into these Saxophones.

Kind Regards.

ManEast
 

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It'd be a great idea to put a comparison gallery out there that's really systematically done (i.e. from the same angles in the same light, showing the important details). I'm pretty sure that Yanagisawa would help with that (providing key informatoin - they did before). I'll look into making that a project, but I'll definitely need help since the access to different Yanagisawas is limited here in Switzerland.

That said, take a look at this one - don't the detail pictures show ribbed construction (behind the tone holes)? No double key arms, though... The seller's a nice guy (I've met him), but he's not a saxophonist, so he relies on misleading information.

What I'll do ASAP is contact one of my favorite dealers to make him change his advertisement for a T-800 - it's also a T-500, not quite as pretty as mine, but also in very decent condition.

M.
Hi M
I very much like the gallery idea. I can help out with that as I know someone that owns a very nice T5. I have already had a word with another SOTW member about some pics of his A4. My 8833 Alto should go in there, but I think the one I have is a one-off...I should wirte to the factory about that.

The horn at www.ricardo looks to be post constrution to me.

I think the 800 will be the hard one to find.
 

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They copied almost everything on the Mark VI but the "short throw". I'll never forget one member's description of Yanagisawas construction of having the appearance of "farm machinery".
Hi Whaler

Yes...I have own up to that comment. :angel4: Its one few things that bug me about Yani horns.
It looks kind of O.K on the Sop and pos the Alto. But then the post's look quite tall on the Tenor....It makes the whole horn very wide.
Maybe we should all go with that Charlie Parker "old farm hand look !"
You know ...with the denim bib and brace.;)
 
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