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Anyone tried the super magic effects of the super magic thumbrest?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tino-Schu...636?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c9743c8c

Check out the description lower onthe page. Here's a snippet ....

"General problems of most sax manufacturers and improvements by SST thumb hook

SST thumb hooks improve the sound and speech from soprano to baritone saxophone, regardless of which make (only saxophones with detachable thumb hook), significantly. By and large the response is greatly improved. The sound gets a center without the sound of a "sound" can not really be defined as a tone, but more than noise. Each musician playing music, whether guitar, piano, saxophone, etc. However, does "sound" to even be able to.

The sound of the center itself provides the actual sound basis on which the saxophonist puts only his sound. This sound is based inter alia on the older MVI Selmer saxophones from Selmer very well developed (not for nothing that they enjoy a certain popularity). For many others, especially those newer brands of saxophone is hardly to be non-existent. The consequences are rather flat "sounding" Saxophones without heat, without depth or capacity and the necessary momentum, which is an essential part of music, regardless of genre. Dynamics played without sound more machine cycles, expression is scarce.

Another plus is the SST thumb hook, that they are ergonomically designed much better than conventional thumb hook. The saxophone playing, especially in view of the right thumb is so much more easily possible."

Allegedly Tim Price has one and says it opens up the sound. Must be magic!
 

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You think this is one of those "hard-earned secrets" that Tim's been keeping to himself? (sorry, Tim. couldn't resist.) :mrgreen:
 

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Just nothing like the translations from Chinese to English. Always a source of amusement.

Now, if I just had a horn with a removeable thumbrest (by some means other than a torch) and it was about $90 cheaper, I might give it a go.
 

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Cool.

Obvious question: does the horn sound differently to you as a result, or is it just more comfortable? Did it meet your expectations at $105 a pop?

Any of the above is a plus.
 

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Great, once again it sounds like ssssssssssnake oil. I did change the plastic thumbhooks on most of my horns to metal ones. It didn't change anything regarding sound. But i did not do it for sound but to bend the hook and have it more comfortable for my hand.
Why can't a producer simply do marketing for a thumbhook on the basis of how comfortable it is? Why does everything always has to produce a better sound even when it doesn't make sense? Do so many buyers believe in good sound bought in a box?
 

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Man what an opportunity! You could buy a bunch of cheap crummy horns, put the thumb rest on them and sell them as MKVI's! WOW!
 

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Postage to Canada is $35. Its a deal breaker:mrgreen:
 

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If you look on the site of Tino Schucht and use german as language you also find this nice ssssssnake oil thing:
http://www.schuchtsaxtechnology.com/Home_D/Produkte/Sound_EXpander/sound_expander.html (sorry only found in german (deutsch) it doesn't exist if you look with english language)
or also great ssssnake oil product:
http://www.klangbogen.de/ (also only in german but look at the pics http://www.klangbogen.de/bilder.html, it will explain itself)

wouldn't it be great to award here every year a product for snake oil of the year?
 

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If you had a weighted crook with one of those extra weights attached to the lyre holder with a lefreque across the join and a super magic thumbrest with a extra lump of metal bolted to the bell-body ring, and a cryogenically treated brass sling hook, would you have the best sounding sax ever - or back ache?
 

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The only thing between you and Bird is a new thumb hook. Money isn't everything.
 

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$105 for a small bent piece of metal with a hole in it...god I want one, but it'll have to wait until I get that $16 million those Nigerians promised would be wired to my account any day now...
 

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We have been discussing Schucht products many times before http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?84766-Schucht-sax-modification-devices


Fortunately they discontinued some of them (ther resonanz disk and the klappenshutz keyguard.......) but insist on their prodigious thumbhook :) which is endorsed by lots of people some also famous SOTWebbers! (then it must work mustn’t it? :) )

NEW link!

http://www.schuchtsaxtechnology.com/Home_E/home_e.html


the great Tobias, inventor of the P-ligging http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?92953-P-Ligging-a-little-help-to-pimp-your-sound (we miss him!) was a great supporter and advocate of “ pimping” devices such as the Klankbogen
http://www.klangbogen.de/
 
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