Use a flute cleaning rod, or something similar, to push the swab down towards the bell, don't pull it, it will make it worst.
Ok, now tell me where you put your wet pullthrough after swabbing the sax with it? Back in the case, and very much wet. Duh!SearjeantSax said:yes, but then the moisture stays on the pads while the horns in the case,
most people swab it out then put a padsaver in.
and also the pad savers leave almost all moisture to collect at the bottom of the hoen where it doesn't reach.
anyway, let's not start a pad saver/swab convo
RoflMaosaintsday said:If it happens again, you could use one of these http://www.stihlusa.com/construction/features.html :twisted:
I would hate to imagine, given the amount of spit that sometimes drains out of the bell when I upend the sax after playing, that anyone would simply put it away in the case like that. Yuck!:shock: Problem is that draining the spit from the bell is a double-edged sword. That's because when you upend the horn Newton's law dictates that it not only drains out of the bell (which is big enough to be wiped out by hand with a cloth), but worse, that a quantity of it also oozes back down the bore of the horn, recoating everything as it goes, and only some of that drips out of the neck from whence it originally came. That reverse flow of spit remains on the bore, the tone holes and the pads. Supposedly the pull through and the pad saver absorb it, but many people say they don't do a thorough enough job.Chris Peryagh said:And do you leave a puddle of water in the bow of your sax after playing and expect the pullthrough to mop it all up, or do you tip it out from the bell?
What about one with some sort of guard over it like a more open version of a pad guard? Would it be feasible?Gordon (NZ) said:"So why isn't there a spit valve at the bottom of the bell ..."
One consideration is that this area of a sax is probably the most exposed to damage. It's bad enough dealing with a smashed-in reinforcing strip here, without also having to deal with a distorted, or crumpled, or ripped out, now-leaking spit valve.
Well I guess you might be right that breath condensation is what causes most of the liquid, and it is quite humid here on the Mediterranean coast so that would explain it too. However, sometimes I have a lot of saliva or mucous due to nasal drainage or my allergies, and from the viscous drool I see inside my mpc I have to believe that some of that goes farther down the horn with the water vapor aiding its movement. I try to clear my nose and throat and spit it out elsewhere but maybe some of it is getting into the horn too.hakukani said:It's not spit it's condensation.
Sounds gross, and even if Gordon was in jest, believable to me cause if you had ever worked backstage at an opera company as I did (photog for the Santa Fe Opera for 3 years) and seen the singers coming off stage after doing an aria with strings of snot hanging out of their noses and hawking up loogies, you'd know how gross vocalizing can get.:shock: And that was in New Mexico, a place so dry the trees bribe dogs to **** on them.Some players launch saliva into their instrument as well.
Some spit all over the outside as well.
Some blow various matter out their nose at the same time.
Some manage to produce a thick, gooey, lining of dead mouth tissue inside the sax as well.
Yes, some saxes are nauseating to work on!