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I recently tried a box of ZZ's, but I found something quite strange about the reeds.

All of them, except for 2, would "buzz" on the notes, especially when I went into the second octave. It's really quite strange. The two reeds that are playable play quite phenomenaly, while the rest just have that buzzing sound on the notes.

I find this only happens with my ZZ reeds though. Traditionals and Javas dont seem to have this problem.
 

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I dislike ZZs for that very reason. I tried ZZ 3s on bari, and every single one of them would buzz, especially in the low register.
 

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ZZ's are the buzziest reeds on the planet, saving maybe BARI brand synthetics.

I like them every now and then, particularly when I feel that I need more brightness and liveliness. They don't "break in" well though.
 

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Vandoren, their site says it as well, has been plagued recently by Chinese copies on the market which look exactly like the real thing, could this be the case?
 

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Vandoren, their site says it as well, has been plagued recently by Chinese copies on the market which look exactly like the real thing, could this be the case?
I think it's really how they are. I've found the same thing and I've bought mine through ReedsDirect and sax.co.uk and several others (Dirty I think was one of them) has also found the same.
 

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Only two out of the whole box dont buzz, and those reeds are quite exceptional. However, I cant justify spending 32 dollars on a box with only two reeds that dont buzz..
 

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ZZ reeds

I've found ZZ reeds to work very well with my ponzol mouthpieces
that have high baffles. I use a 2 1/2 on my ponzol bari custom. Otherwise,
I was using Javas or Blue Box on my links and bergs.
 

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Oh, ok. I'll try playing with a high baffle mouthpiece. Also, what facing and chamber size do you have? I love the sound ZZ reeds make when they play right.

What reed would be closest to ZZs? I'm thinking of trying an alternative option.
 

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ZZ reeds

I wouldn't change mouthpieces to fit the reed. I have the exact same setup for alto as you have listed and I use JAVA 3 reeds. The concept of the ZZ reeds seems to be a brighter "jazzier" sound with less "work" required of the musician. That's how I perceive them anyway. If you like your setup, i wouldn't change it.
 

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I love my new ZZ reeds. They work remarkably well with my Runyon. I have not yet experienced any of the problems that you have yet with these reeds. This is maybe because I only have gotten through 2/10. This happened with the blue box reeds. I guess they hate my Runyon mpc. Neither any V16 or Java have ever given me any problems of the sort. I think that ZZs are better than the rest.
 

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Same here. To me, Javas and V16s have more of a "punch" to them, but ZZs just feel perfect for jazz.

Maybe I'll try a stronger cut next time.
 

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sod9728 said:
I recently tried a box of ZZ's, but I found something quite strange about the reeds.

All of them, except for 2, would "buzz" on the notes, especially when I went into the second octave. It's really quite strange. The two reeds that are playable play quite phenomenaly, while the rest just have that buzzing sound on the notes.

I find this only happens with my ZZ reeds though. Traditionals and Javas dont seem to have this problem.
Buy a small piece of Plate glass and a sheet of #600 wet-or-dry abrasive paper. Place sandpaper on plate glass, gently rub bottom of reed back and forth until it is smooth and perfectly flat. Wet reed and blow horn.
 

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I got a new box of ZZ reeds, size 3.5, a week ago, and it doesnt have any of the aforementioned problems.

Thanks for the tips though. I'll try that method, Allthatjazz, if I have any other reeds that buzz.
 

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I've recently bought 3 boxes of 2.5 and 2 boxes of 3 ZZs and to tell the truth, every reed works fine right out of the box. I don't experience the buzz thing either. I find them quite consistent. I just have to get used to the fact that cane reeds don't last as long as Fibracells. I'm playing these on a 130/2 Berg(2.5) and a Ponzol M2 110(3) or a NY 7* Link(2.5)
 
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