[zootspiker]

I thought I'd solved my problem propping the C# key open when not in use but it is inconsistent. It appears that the G# mechanism is independent so my question is: If I had a thicker stiffer spring would that be enough to over come the stickiness. I really like this horn. Sounds great with a Jary modified Link. But the sticky G# is as frustrating as it is unpredictable. Open to any suggestions.

 

[Dr G]

I thought I'd solved my problem propping the C# key open when not in use but it is inconsistent. It appears that the G# mechanism is independent so my question is: If I had a thicker stiffer spring would that be enough to over come the stickiness. I really like this horn. Sounds great with a Jary modified Link. But the sticky G# is as frustrating as it is unpredictable. Open to any suggestions.

Try cleaning the pad and tone hole first. If that doesn't work, clean the tone hole and replace the pad.

That key is usually balanced pretty well, so don't change out the spring if you don't need to.

 

[adamk]

Those pesky G#s.
My tenor was sticking yesterday.

 

[milandro]

another problem of the G# on the Super 20 (which may appear like sticking pad but has a different origin) is the fact that the mechanism has two plates sliding upon each other, the upper one has a small “ ball” protrusion to minimize contact , this thing, when sliding on cork put on the one slide positioned underneath, has the nasty habit to create a groove and sometimes get stuck in it.

This MAY appear to be the key getting stuck.

The tech whom overhauled my S 20 many years ago put there (the under plate) a piece of teflon on top of some other material (difficult to glue, of course) on the plate on the base, this has lasted until now and the mechanism never created any problem while before I had the G# not opening, from time to time, and erratically, It drove me nuts, check that your problem is not due to this.

 

[B Flat]

I started putting a business card between the pad and tone hole when mine was problematic.
It worked well and didn’t seem to cause any other problems.

 

[1saxman]

Ideally, a tech familiar with the Super 20 should check it out. in addition to the mechanism mentioned above possibly needing work, the 'balancing springs' may be out of whack - maybe there have been spring replacements in the past that were not managed well or someone has 'tweaked' those springs improperly.

 

[turf3]

I thought I'd solved my problem propping the C# key open when not in use but it is inconsistent. It appears that the G# mechanism is independent so my question is: If I had a thicker stiffer spring would that be enough to over come the stickiness. I really like this horn. Sounds great with a Jary modified Link. But the sticky G# is as frustrating as it is unpredictable. Open to any suggestions.

There have been a lot of suggestions specific to the King Super 20, but the most likely cause is the traditional sticky G# - just like every single model of saxophone is prone too.

If the G# is not connected to C# and B, I'd have that done first; then adjust/balance spring tensions based on that. But your most likely path to a cure is to replace the pad, carefully cleaning the tone hole in the process.

 

[notes_norton]

When I was a young, pro sax player, an older pro told me to stick a one dollar bill between the pad and the horn when you put it away. I've done that since and have never had the problem again.

I've been told that a $50 works better, but as a musician I've never seen one

Also you have to remember to remove it before you start playing.

Note

 

[JayeLID]

~Teflon powder sprinkled on both sides of a dollar bill, then gently shaken off, then pulled thru between pad and hole gently.

~Yamaha powder paper.

If I had a thicker stiffer spring would that be enough to over come the stickiness.

....yes, or maybe just increasing the tension of that spring. But indeed if the spring tension is close to maxed out, then a tech could ream a slightly larger spring hole and install a stronger spring.

 

[Sacks Of Phones]

~Teflon powder sprinkled on both sides of a dollar bill, then gently shaken off, then pulled thru between pad and hole gently.

~Yamaha powder paper.

White powder on a dollar bill........I remember those days..............wait, no I don't.