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Stanley Turrentine and Dexter Gordon

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Stanley is a great player. He can swing, Play ballads and pop. Listen to "Pieces of Dreams"
He is so melodic and has a great sound. I've always loved the way he popped his high F. When
you hear that you know it's Stanley.

I saw him at a club called Under the Pier in Redondo Beach. Ca. in the 70's. I went up to the bar where he was hanging
out and said I see you're playing an Otto Link mouthpiece. He answered me back kind of gruffly. "
No. It's a Berg Larsen with an Otto Link ligature." **** I didn't even know an Otto Link ligature would
fit on a Berg Larsen. I had both those mouthpieces at the time and still do. My feelings were always
hurt the way he responded to me. You'd think he'd find camaraderie with a fellow tenor player.

On the other hand. Saw Dexter at the Lighthouse in Hermosa Beach, Ca. in the late 70s. Dexter was
living in Copenhagen at the time and whenever he came to the States he came to New York.

So we hear that Dexter is coming to L.A. so my best friend, who was also a tenor player, went to see him.

It was fabulous. At a break we just had to talk to Dexter. So we went to the back of the club where there was a stairway that led up to the dressing room.
I'd been up there before. Just as we started to go up the stairs Dexter walks out of the dressing room and looks
down at us and says, "You guys look like a couple of tenor players". Uggh. One of the greatest moments of my life.
Went around for weeks telling everybody that " Dexter said I looked like a tenor player." Brings tears to my eyes.
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Thanks for these stories! Love em.

I can appreciate STs response.

When I was a regularly gigging player, I was seldom able to respond to chatty folks after a gig in a way that I normally would…if I was in a purely social interaction.

For me at least, the stress and related adrenaline of a performance made it difficult for me to ‘tolerate’ an awkward conversation with a stranger, especially when that conversation (as they so often did) started with matters of gear.

My last gig earlier this year, I was approached by a young guy curious about my baritone. He was in awe of all that brass and its crazy sound. He didn’t really know what questions to ask, but that’s the sort of interaction I like: being able to encourage young players and show them new possibilities.
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Stanley may have been pulling your leg.
I’ve only seen him playing a Link.
I’d say the majority of great players I’ve met have been friendly. Usually it’s the lesser ones who are *******s .
I fit in that second category sometimes.
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I saw Turrentine in Terrytown NY in the mid-1990s and snuck back stage after the performance to get his autograph on a CD jacket. He was wonderfully kind and accommodating. We ended up talking a lot about golf of all things and doing "air golf club" swings in the hall outside his dressing room. I suspect it depends a lot on when you catch them.

Overall my experience has been more like Whaler's - the well known pros I've interacted with have all been kind and generous with their time. It's the unknown and generally younger local pros who have been jerks.
Stanley may have been pulling your leg.
I’ve only seen him playing a Link.
I’d say the majority of great players I’ve met have been friendly. Usually it’s the lesser ones who are *******s .
I fit in that second category sometimes.
only sometimes??


I kid, I kid. Had to do it.

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@Sigmund451 commented on ST mouthpieces here: Stan The Man Turrentine
My 2 top TOP favorite Masters, no discussion. In the same thread. 🤩

I never heard ST live. Fortunately, I’ve heard Dex a couple of times, on big stages and small venues. Never talked with him though.
They’re my favourites! There’s not enough footage/interviews etc of Stanley Turrentine- a lot of the info I know about him I’ve actually found through trawling this forum.
I’d say it sounds (to my ears) like he changed mouthpieces through his career, however I suspect that could also be the volume he was playing at on the session/production values of the era? I can hear a difference from early 60s (Shirley Scott/with Kenny Burrell) to late 60s (The spoiler/rough n tumble/return of the prodigal son) to 70s (don’t mess with mr T). I’ve tried to copy him a lot sound - wise and the one thing I’d say it’s really hard to get the attack on the notes - it’s almost fudgy and thick sounding. Anyhow I can understand his response- my favourite is ‘your saxophone sounds amazing’…. Thanks!
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i always read he used a link with an added baffel which explains his better tone
It's kinda hard to draw any conclusions as to a performer's general personality towards an audience (unless those sort of experiences and stories become plentiful.common), so much depends upon the dynamics of the situation. But I can understand being a bit bummed about a gruff reply. It can happen....
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If you want I can go back and ask him if he was just pulling your leg.
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Please don't be offended, but you bear a passing resemblance to Lee Konitz.
Please don't be offended, but you bear a passing resemblance to Lee Konitz.
Konitz would be caught dead in a pair of NBs!
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Who, me? Those are Nikes! Plus, I play in tune. :rolleyes: Damn, did I say that out loud.
Two of my all-time favorite tenor players. I saw both of them a few times live back in the '70s and it was always fantastic. Never talked to them, though. I was mostly interested in hearing what they had to say on the horn!
I talked to Stanley one time at Jazz Alley in Seattle. After a set as he was leaving the stage I approached him and told him I was a huge fan, in fact going back to the “Back at the Chicken Shack” album. He replied. “That was a long time ago.” A man of few words I guess.
He sat in on a gig on my horn with my 7* Link. He was playing an 8 on his own setup.
He sat in on a gig on my horn with my 7* Link. He was playing an 8 on his own setup.
And he sounded like Stanley of course!!!
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Who, me? Those are Nikes! Plus, I play in tune. :rolleyes: Damn, did I say that out loud.
Please accept my apology.
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Please accept my apology.
No worries. It's all in fun. And I can't hold a candle to Lee.
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