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I have a silver plated Mark VI baritone that is in a very good condition, taking its age into consideration. There is one cosmetic detail though that I would like to have mended. Just below the left hand thumb rest there is an area where the plating is gone and brass is visible. This defect may be due to wear or dent repair, I do not know the history of the instrument. Anyway, is it possible to spot plate this area?

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I did a quick search and could find no electroplating kits or supplies in Norway. You could try the Plug-n-Plate kit from Caswell, but I have had spotty results with those kits in the past. There are also several products advertised that don't use electricity where you just rub the solution onto the surface to produce a silver look. I don't recommend this for musical instruments since the coating is extremely thin and rubs of very easily. The problem if you can find no suppliers of brush plating products near you is that most of the chemicals involved cannot be shipped overseas. In the plating I have done I have found the most important elements are to have a perfectly clean surface, and to use the proper voltage for the solution you are using. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
 

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Actually Hamilton House Silver Secret is a spot chemical plater (rub on in a few applications) which I have had good results with. Indeed the thing about the chem platers is they do not 'build up' the plating. They simply adhere to (well-cleaned) bare brass and the repeated applications are done simply to get all or most f the brass covered.

BUT...to my surprise...once done....it is more durable than I had expected. I actually did a neck with it once, owner didn't wanna spring for a true electroplate silverplate job....and the neck, once done, actually stood up to a light mechanical buffing without the plating buffing off. So, IMHO, it's OK stuff...I mean, it is cheap, easy, and it does have some resistance to wear.
I confirmed this when I used some on some palm key touches which had worn to bare brass. 3 months after the new owner (practiced and played around 4-5 days of the week) had taken possession of the horn, he sent me a pic and the touches had not worn the chem plating back down to bare.

In areas where there is not regular contact, I'd say it is a pretty cheap roll of the dice to give it a try. If it didn't work, you are out around $15.

The one aspect I will say about it is, in some cases (not all, but some) even after repeated applications to an area, there is still a brassy hue to the silver....it isn't as 'cool blue' a hue as an old silverplated horn would have. But, again, it did give a noticeable improvement in most cases where I have used it.
 

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I did a quick search and could find no electroplating kits or supplies in Norway. You could try the Plug-n-Plate kit from Caswell, but I have had spotty results with those kits in the past. There are also several products advertised that don't use electricity where you just rub the solution onto the surface to produce a silver look. I don't recommend this for musical instruments since the coating is extremely thin and rubs of very easily. The problem if you can find no suppliers of brush plating products near you is that most of the chemicals involved cannot be shipped overseas. In the plating I have done I have found the most important elements are to have a perfectly clean surface, and to use the proper voltage for the solution you are using. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Thank you! You have highlighted the important problematics with availability of such silver plating kits here in my country and the shipping of chemicals. I will have to look into all of this.
 

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Actually Hamilton House Silver Secret is a spot chemical plater (rub on in a few applications) which I have had good results with. Indeed the thing about the chem platers is they do not 'build up' the plating. They simply adhere to (well-cleaned) bare brass and the repeated applications are done simply to get all or most f the brass covered.

BUT...to my surprise...once done....it is more durable than I had expected. I actually did a neck with it once, owner didn't wanna spring for a true electroplate silverplate job....and the neck, once done, actually stood up to a light mechanical buffing without the plating buffing off. So, IMHO, it's OK stuff...I mean, it is cheap, easy, and it does have some resistance to wear.
I confirmed this when I used some on some palm key touches which had worn to bare brass. 3 months after the new owner (practiced and played around 4-5 days of the week) had taken possession of the horn, he sent me a pic and the touches had not worn the chem plating back down to bare.

In areas where there is not regular contact, I'd say it is a pretty cheap roll of the dice to give it a try. If it didn't work, you are out around $15.

The one aspect I will say about it is, in some cases (not all, but some) even after repeated applications to an area, there is still a brassy hue to the silver....it isn't as 'cool blue' a hue as an old silverplated horn would have. But, again, it did give a noticeable improvement in most cases where I have used it.
Thank you for your advice! I have been searching for Hamilton House Silver Secret plating, it seems it is out of stock on their website. There might also be an issue with shipping, depending on what kind of substance the Silver Secret plating kit consists of (referring to the post above by saxoclese). Otherwise this product looks very appealing, and as you say, it is not a very expensive experiment to give it a go. I will surely try to source the Silver Secret plating kit.
 

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What could one expect from a professional musical instrument workshop specialising in plating and replating? Would it be possible for such professionals to repair/restore the areas with worn silver plating on my baritone to a perfect condition, or would one need to replate the whole tube for it to become 100%?

As far as I know there are not any workshops doing plating and replating of musical instruments here in Norway, so one would have to send the saxophone abroad. I know that there is a workshop in Kopenhagen in Denmark that does this kind of work.
 

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Thank you for your advice! I have been searching for Hamilton House Silver Secret plating, it seems it is out of stock on their website. There might also be an issue with shipping, depending on what kind of substance the Silver Secret plating kit consists of (referring to the post above by saxoclese). Otherwise this product looks very appealing, and as you say, it is not a very expensive experiment to give it a go. I will surely try to source the Silver Secret plating kit.
That's a bummer, because I was gonna order some more, too....hmmm....

there's another brand called Medallion....never have used it however. https://sciencesolutionsllc.com/product/medallion-liquid-silver-plating-solution/

Then Kernowcraft: https://www.kernowcraft.com/jewelle...ing-advice/how-to-use-silver-plating-solution

likewise never have tried it...but I may take a shot at one of these products, myself...they seem to be essentially the same idea....
 

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What could one expect from a professional musical instrument workshop specialising in plating and replating? Would it be possible for such professionals to repair/restore the areas with worn silver plating on my baritone to a perfect condition, or would one need to replate the whole tube for it to become 100%?

As far as I know there are not any workshops doing plating and replating of musical instruments here in Norway, so one would have to send the saxophone abroad. I know that there is a workshop in Kopenhagen in Denmark that does this kind of work.
"Spot plating" using a brush plating set-up does a very nice job when the area is polished and properly cleaned. The photos below show the before and after pictures of a Buffet-Evette soprano that I "brush plated" using a Caswell Plug-N-Plate kit. When I get around to it, I plan to add to the plating with the more sophisticated brush plating set-up I currently have which will make it even harder to tell what areas were "touched up".

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