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Many thanks to Johns Kotches for hosting last month’s TOTM,
which received many great submissions and comments.

I now have the pleasure of hosting the TOTM for February 2019
and have selected "Lazy Bird" by John Coltrane, which first appeared
on his 1957 album Blue Train.

This ‘hard bop’ tune is usually performed at tempos ranging from
moderately fast through burning fast. The form is AABA ending with an 11 bar coda,
which is an integral art of the composition. The pace of harmonic movement is rather
hurried and presents an interesting challenge for improvisation.

In addition to the original version on Coltrane’s ‘Blue Trane’ album,
several recordings of “Lazy Bird” in various styles at various tempos can
be readily found on YouTube. My personal favorites are the
tenor sax version by Eric Alexander on his 2007 album ‘My Favorite Things’
and the guitar version by Pat Martino on his 1968 album ‘East’.

John Coltrane from ‘Blue Trane’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAsUNTHRjaM

Eric Alexander from ‘My Favorite Things’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEtTNrpZRYE

Pat Martino from ‘East’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6OhgQRNnGk


Lazy Bird - Charts and Backing Tracks

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1CLqTPqOjvn0tukoI1V_7CNsgqQut5cp1
 

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This is a terrific tune. While I haven't had much time to participate or make a bunch of comments, it makes me happy to see things continuing and people sharing opinions and ideas.
 

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This ‘hard bop’ tune is usually performed at tempos ranging from
moderately fast through burning fast. The form is AABA ending with an 11 bar coda,
which is an integral art of the composition. The pace of harmonic movement is rather
hurried and presents an interesting challenge for improvisation.
OK I'll get the ball rolling - all hard bop is hard ! Can't phrase at this speed ... but I'm not interested in playing it as a ballad. :evil:
I couldn't hold it together long enough to make it to the coda, so there's a merciful fade out.
Don't blame you if you don't make it to the end (of the first few bars :mrgreen: ) I barely can, and I love my own playing !! :bluewink: :bluewink:

https://www.soundclick.com/html5/v4/player.cfm?songID=13837921
 

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OK I'll get the ball rolling - all hard bop is hard ! Can't phrase at this speed ... but I'm not interested in playing it as a ballad. :evil:
I couldn't hold it together long enough to make it to the coda, so there's a merciful fade out.
Don't blame you if you don't make it to the end (of the first few bars :mrgreen: ) I barely can, and I love my own playing !! :bluewink: :bluewink:

https://www.soundclick.com/html5/v4/player.cfm?songID=13837921
Brendan,

Thanks for initiating the ball roll - I was feeling a bit guilty about not yet submitting a take (my lame excuse is that I have been under the weather and I'm not that 'FLU'ent with this tune).

Nice take over all, and I fully agree that it's tough to keep the creativity going long enough to make it to the coda.
 

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Coltrane's solo on the original is so amazing, it's like a highlight reel. Jam packed with great phrases. Everyone else was on-point too, Lee Morgan really kicked things off didn't he...used to listen to Blue Train so much, still one of his best overall albums.
 

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I like your tone, there's an interesting vibe there. For the brighter tempo, you probably want to try to play on the top/front of the beat. With all those chords going by, it's easy to drop a couple beats. Don't feel like you have to play over every chord, that's a tough road for some of us. I feel like as you got deeper into the take, you started playing more connected lines and the ideas were a little more fluid. This is the kind of tune you could come back later in the month to check progress.
 

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I like your tone, there's an interesting vibe there. For the brighter tempo, you probably want to try to play on the top/front of the beat. With all those chords going by, it's easy to drop a couple beats. Don't feel like you have to play over every chord, that's a tough road for some of us. I feel like as you got deeper into the take, you started playing more connected lines and the ideas were a little more fluid. This is the kind of tune you could come back later in the month to check progress.
Thank for listening so carefully. I truly appreciate your comments. With so many choruses, its difficult for me to keep creating and developing new motifs. And yes, I certainly dropped more than a few beats, the tempo is pushing my limit. My plan is to practice the piece at an even faster tempo and then come back and do another take at 240. In my head I know that I need more space in my solos (Dave Pollack noted that about my "Softly" recording for last month's TOTM) and I'm going to work on that aspect. I only recently learned this tune (memorized head and chords) and will try to call it at a local public jam session in the next few weeks and will try to record the session. For some reason, I seem to play best in front of a live audience, especially one that includes other jazz musicians.
 

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OK, here is my first attempt at a fast tempo :faceinpalm:
https://soundcloud.com/saxy-in-san-diego/lazy-bird-sotw-totm-219/s-T44uc
I was really getting into that take Saxy ... glad the link was fixed !

With so many choruses, its difficult for me to keep creating and developing new motifs. And yes, I certainly dropped more than a few beats, the tempo is pushing my limit
Of course I have the same problem (but a lot worse !).

I know that listening to pros/acomplished players and trying to emulate them is the way to go, but my favourite uploads are from players who are above my skill level, but not so far that it doesn't seem unattainable. :bluewink: :mrgreen:
 

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Thanks for listening and I'm glad to hear remarks about my 'sound'. Seems that all of those long-tone exercises I've been doing for the past several months are possibly paying-off - so suppose that I must move on to improving my rhythm and being more creative with 6 chorus solos. :scratch:

Also, looking forward to hearing more takes from the other TOTM followers
 

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I wasn't going to post a synth version, I was actually reading through this to re-familliarize myself with the tune and figured I roll some quick video. I blew the ending, if you're going to play a wrong note might as well do it big. Hadn't played this in a long time, but it still seems a bit familiar...

https://youtu.be/rhrabltgrLY
 

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I wasn't going to post a synth version, I was actually reading through this to re-familliarize myself with the tune and figured I roll some quick video. I blew the ending, if you're going to play a wrong note might as well do it big. Hadn't played this in a long time, but it still seems a bit familiar...

https://youtu.be/rhrabltgrLY
Fawlty,

Although I'm really into synth made music, I did enjoy the jazz musicality and lyricism of you improv. The way you leave 'space' around you lines is something I can learn from. Hope that you find time this month to do a sax take as well.
 
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