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Hey guys, I'm super psyched to play host for this month's TOTM, and hope you enjoy this gem from the Great American Songbook. It's not super well known, but one of my favorites. Check out the Google Drive here for some PDFs and Play-alongs. There's some subtle differences in the chord notation of the Aebersold stuff, which might be worth taking some time to look at, if you want to get nerdy. [Edit: I’ve made some space in my Drive, if you’d like the tracks, just reach out]

The tune's been around since the 1930s, so there's PLENTY of recordings to check out... Ron Carter, Sinatra, Chet Baker, Jim Snidero, Woody Shaw, Grant Greene... I'll start with the two that put this in my head the most.

The incomparable Bob Berg

For those of you interested time signatures and ostinati

For the alto players out there...

Getz and Bill Evans

Have at it!

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Looks like an awesome tune for TOTM! So many great versions out! Definitely some people absolutely cruising up and down the horns here! May have to slow it down but happy to take part!
 

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"You and the Night and the Music" is a popular song composed by Arthur Schwartz with lyrics by Howard Dietz.

The song was debuted in the Broadway show Revenge with Music. The show originally opened on November 28, 1934, ran for 22 performances, after which it closed. It then reopened on December 24, 1934, and ran for an additional 135 performances.[1] Authors Caryl Brahms and Ned Sherrin, in their book Song by Song: 14 Great Lyric Writers, say that “...the musical yielded two enduring hits and a profit although it was an artistic failure.”
Notable Recordings
Popular recordings in 1935 were by Libby Holman and by Leo Reisman (vocal by Phil Dewey). [2] The song has since become an enduring jazz standard with notable recordings by Frank Sinatra, Bill Evans, Chet Baker, Stan Getz, Keith Jarrett, Julie London, Jamie Cullum, and Lennie Niehaus.
 

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Looks like an awesome tune for TOTM! So many great versions out! Definitely some people absolutely cruising up and down the horns here! May have to slow it down but happy to take part!
Keep in mind there's 4 different tracks with a few different tempos!

Great choice Bubba and a nice selection of backing tracks. Got my favourite already. Alex
Can't wait!

"You and the Night and the Music" is a popular song composed by Arthur Schwartz with lyrics by Howard Dietz.

The song was debuted in the Broadway show Revenge with Music. The show originally opened on November 28, 1934, ran for 22 performances, after which it closed. It then reopened on December 24, 1934, and ran for an additional 135 performances.[1] Authors Caryl Brahms and Ned Sherrin, in their book Song by Song: 14 Great Lyric Writers, say that “...the musical yielded two enduring hits and a profit although it was an artistic failure.”
Yeah! And the other tune that took off from this Musical was "If There is Someone Lovelier Than You," which several people recorded (Coltrane!).

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Keep in mind there's 4 different tracks with a few different tempos!
Saw that today, and listened to all 4, thinking of which, and doing lots of chord analysis this morning. This could take me awhile to get down, beautiful song though! I am a huge Frank Sinatra fan, so I have that one playing currently!
 

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FYI, I made the alto leadsheet myself since I couldn't find Real Book III for Eb. I made a type on m.4 that I've fixed and reloaded. (the Fm7 should have been Dmin7)

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May I take the liberty of inviting all the players who normally frequent this TOTM to the B/I TOTM that I’m currently hosting for August. I’d be delighted to hear your versions of ‘I Wish I Knew‘ if and when you have time. You are most cordially welcomed to join us there. Kind regards, Alex
 

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Alright guys, really wanted get in here early and kick this thing off. I've played this tune a few times before, but never *really learned* it-- turns out it's more challenging then I remember.

https://soundcloud.com/jake-daniels-4%2Ftotm-aug-2020-you-and-the-night-v2-1
Looking forward to your feedback, your takes, and discussing this tune with you!

-Bubba-
Excellent Jake. Lovely arrangement. The winds are very nice. The tenor solo keeps the energy where it should be. And the interplay of the wind backings adds a great deal of depth to the whole. My only reservation is the recording quality of the tenor. I feel your tenor sounds a lot better than the recording does it justice to. Just where they are placed in the field and and the settings for the fx. I know you are still working with the system. I think it';s a great take anyway. Best, Alex
 

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Excellent Jake. Lovely arrangement. The winds are very nice. The tenor solo keeps the energy where it should be. And the interplay of the wind backings adds a great deal of depth to the whole. My only reservation is the recording quality of the tenor. I feel your tenor sounds a lot better than the recording does it justice to. Just where they are placed in the field and and the settings for the fx. I know you are still working with the system. I think it';s a great take anyway. Best, Alex
Hey Alex, thanks for the comments! I think we share the sentiment that backing tracks are a struggle to play with due to the lack of interaction and variety. Yeah... I've never really had an ear for EQ. Generally when my sound guy does something and shows me, I don't even really hear the difference. I need to get on some Youtube videos, and spend some more time with that.

Beautiful playing, Alex! I think that's the first I've heard you on tenor. You sound really fluent on these changes, would you be able to share a little bit of your approach to playing over this tune? I'm feeling like my playing is a little bit clunky on this tune, and I've talked to a few other members about these changes in particular.

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Hey Alex, thanks for the comments! I think we share the sentiment that backing tracks are a struggle to play with due to the lack of interaction and variety. Yeah... I've never really had an ear for EQ. Generally when my sound guy does something and shows me, I don't even really hear the difference. I need to get on some Youtube videos, and spend some more time with that.



Beautiful playing, Alex! I think that's the first I've heard you on tenor. You sound really fluent on these changes, would you be able to share a little bit of your approach to playing over this tune? I'm feeling like my playing is a little bit clunky on this tune, and I've talked to a few other members about these changes in particular.

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Thanks Jake. I personally don’t hear anything ‘clunky’ about your soloing for me it’s just the very dry sound of the tenor and where it’s placed in the soundfield that detracts from the overall finished take. I don’t know exactly how you’re recording but there are no doubt a few tweaks you could make to enhance the recorded sound of the sax. The flute also sounded a bit distant. Don’t get me wrong...I can hear what you’re playing and I know that if I was in the room with you the sound of the horns and winds would be very good.

I’m not sure I can explain exactly what my approach is to this tune because I haven’t played it before. Of course I know the tune and recognise the changes but as with a lot of standards it’s only when you get to grips with it you realise the subtleties of the changes. In many ways not having played it before means I don’t come to to the table with a load of pre conceived ideas and stock patterns to play. You also need to bear in mind I’ve never had a lesson in my life in either saxophone playing or improvisation. So all that I’ve learnt and all that I offer as a performance is born out of my having listened to lots of players and using my ears as to what sounds right to me. I can’t explain really any more than that. My lines are fairly simple in this track and I don’t play anything higher than an Eb. Playing to the track helps as well. Not overplaying on a track like this is important. I can certainly cite guys like Rich Perry and Lee Konitz as major influences.
 

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Nice take, Bubba. The playing is very good and the sound has the same problems I've been having.
One of my favorite tunes to play. There's also an Aebersold recording with strings if that would appeal to you. It's all good.
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Bubba, great choice of tunes. Here's my version with a really nice bass player who goes by MrSunnyBass on Utoob & has a ton of bass only play-alongs. I really like playing with the bass only. Hope you give it a listen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92zLO3G2Z4Q
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Very nice take George. You know a while back I said how your playing on a particular track reminded me of Warne (Marsh) and just at the top of this track I heard a Pete Christlieb vibe in your sound. Just the buzz of the sound I guess and the way you inflect the notes. I really like it. And I like the bass only version too. That works so well. You seem to be very comfortable in that setting. Thanks for sharing as always. Best, Alex
 

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Bubba, great choice of tunes. Here's my version with a really nice bass player who goes by MrSunnyBass on Utoob & has a ton of bass only play-alongs. I really like playing with the bass only. Hope you give it a listen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92zLO3G2Z4Q
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Great George, thanks for joining us! I, too, enjoy playing with bass players. It’s a practice tool I use often, as well. I appreciate your use of motives on this take.

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